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Obama Speech Wednesday: Smells Like "Trigger" Spirit.
The Independent Rage ^ | 09/08/2009 | Big Daddy D

Posted on 09/08/2009 8:31:15 PM PDT by The Independent Rage

Predictions for what Obama may propose tomorrow night? It think it’s fairly clear that he will not be insisting upon a public option. There is the possibility of something along the lines of the bill that democratic Senator Max Baucus is working on, which would involve “public cooperatives” (whatever precisely that really means) rather than a public option, plus a requirement that all citizens obtain health insurance. But I think that’s improbable. Instead, I think what we’re probably going to hear from Obama is a proposal for the so-called “trigger.” The “trigger” means that the public option is only “triggered” if the private health insurance industry fails to meet some set of guidelines (who knows what those would be without a bill to look at) related to covering more uninsured persons.

As I’ve stated previously in this space, I am willing to listen to a plan that includes the “trigger,” but I will be looking very carefully at what’s being proposed. My fear is a “trigger” standard so rigid that a public option is almost certain to occur (I oppose a public option because I think it creates a very real danger of an eventual single payer system, which I oppose). Further, I can say that if we see Nancy Pelosi (whose “progressive” ultra left wing of the democratic party has previously hooted and howled at the “trigger” possibility) suddenly onboard with the “trigger,” then I’m going to be highly suspicious that something be rotten in Denmark. Put another way, if Pelosi’s suddenly onboard, it will be a huge red flag for me that the “trigger” is really just a disguised and guaranteed public option.

Also in the wind tonight: I have the additional fear that in connection with Obama’s speech tomorrow, we may well see congressional dems over the next 48 hours proclaim that they suddenly have a new and wonderful “compromise” bill, which they will likely claim is consistent with whatever Obama proposes tomorrow night. That’s the first part. The second part is that the dems will at the same time start pushing to vote on the “great compromise” within a few days before anyone gets a chance to read or digest it.

Bottom line: Watch out folks these upcoming days. The dems may well be lookin’ to hoodwink us and ram-rod another piece of legislation down our throats that we do not want. I hope I’m wrong, and I well could be. I’m just relaying what seems to be in the wind tonight, as best I can read the tea leaves.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: obama; pelosi; reid; trigger
Look out for a "trigger" option to be presented by Obama tomorrow, followed by a "great compromise" bill from the dems soon thereafter that contains the "trigger." Pelosi will be onboard, which says it all. This could be dead wrong, but it seems to be in the wind around Washington.
1 posted on 09/08/2009 8:31:16 PM PDT by The Independent Rage
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To: The Independent Rage
the name may be different but the goal is the same -- and the goal is governmental control
2 posted on 09/08/2009 8:35:42 PM PDT by kingattax (99 % of liberals give the rest a bad name)
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To: The Independent Rage

Don’t trust the Communists. I am speaking to the Choir, so what do I know.

We are headed into Civil War!

Prepare ye in the Choir!

Fight Fascism.....all ye who dare!

They can come to my door.


3 posted on 09/08/2009 8:38:25 PM PDT by unkus
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To: The Independent Rage
I think they're headed down the "trigger" option, and if Democrats are anything, they're predictable. This option is so laughably stupid, I don't think the public will bite. The very people who want the public option design the trigger. Good Lord, even your typical Obama voter might understand that...well, if it were explained with big crayons and construction paper.

Who really thinks a "trigger" is good imagery? I can see the signs and ads now showing a gun pointed at the American public.

4 posted on 09/08/2009 8:38:55 PM PDT by ElectronVolt
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To: The Independent Rage

Any so Called “Trigger” plan is BS.

All Triggers can be set to get the end result desired.

Set really light they can Go off without even a thought.

Set heavier They can be almost impossible to pull.

No Single Payer.

No Co-Ops.

No Triggers.

No Individual Mandate.

Yes, Tort Reform.

Yes, Repeal of the Prohibition against Interstate Sales of Insurance.


5 posted on 09/08/2009 8:43:20 PM PDT by SwedeBoy2
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To: The Independent Rage

I don’t expect much more than general platitudes from Obama that a lot of people will agree with: We Need to do Something, You can keep your health coverage under my plan (even if you can’t), We can do all this and actually save money, etc, etc. Then Pelousy and Screid will pretty much pass HR 3200 as is and call it “The President’s Plan” and, citing, post-speech-about-nothing polls showing support, will crow that “this is what the American people want.” All bait and switch.


6 posted on 09/08/2009 8:47:56 PM PDT by Saab-driving Yuppie
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To: SwedeBoy2
Any so Called “Trigger” plan is BS.

"Trigger" is a horse but it is basically the same kind of ****.

7 posted on 09/08/2009 8:55:16 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare! When "natural causes" just isn't good enough!)
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To: The Independent Rage
The trust is gone for these people. Judging from all the other 'solutions' they came up with proves that THEY DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING!!

They know nothing about business, how to run one or anything about living a regular person's life. This charade is another one of their 'Hail Mary' passes & they have no clue that it will ever work.

The did one right thing, though, by picking the word “trigger”. It's really just a disguised and guaranteed public option.

They hold a gun to your head to pass it as quickly as possible & then pull the 'trigger' later, when they make sure it is impossible to follow the built-in regulations.

The BILL NEEDS TO BE KILLED.

8 posted on 09/08/2009 8:56:38 PM PDT by LADY J (Change your thoughts and you change your world. - Norman Vincent Peale)
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To: The Independent Rage; All

We need EVERYONE to call their Representatives and Senators to tell them that if they vote for ANYTHING with a “trigger” option - they will face the opposite end of another type of “trigger” ...

That “trigger” will be a pull on the lever in the ballot box AGAINST them next time they run ...


9 posted on 09/08/2009 8:58:30 PM PDT by Lmo56
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To: The Independent Rage

WSJ reporting that he will press for public option.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125240777810092069.html

Buy popcorn futures.


10 posted on 09/08/2009 9:07:15 PM PDT by freespirited (Liberals are only liberal about sex & drugs. Otherwise, they want to control your life. --DHorowitz)
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To: The Independent Rage

Great analysis.


11 posted on 09/08/2009 9:20:52 PM PDT by lmr (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: The Independent Rage

The rats had better be careful that they don’t “trigger” the wrong trigger.


12 posted on 09/08/2009 11:07:49 PM PDT by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

High Ho, Silver! AWAY!


13 posted on 09/08/2009 11:27:21 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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