Posted on 09/06/2009 6:11:31 AM PDT by autumnraine
This is from June of this year, the police are actually arresting a news crew and ticketing a woman for holding a sign in line for a Town Hall meeting.
This abuse is ridiculous.
Silly. If you are on private property and are asked to leave and fail to do so like the woman in the video; you will get a trespass summons. No where did the officer ‘restrict her freedom of speech’. He just told her to leave and she refused.
Thugs in BLUE SHIRTS instead of BROWN SHIRTS are still Anti-American THUGS!
Sorry, but this is not representative of most police. I don’t like the tone of this distorted view of the police or reality. Comparing them to pigs, etc. is something that the Left would produce. Why are you posting this here?
City hall is private property?
I see, so if Van Jones isn’t representative of most Democrat Czars, we should leave him alone?
The fact is that these people in uniform are acting on behalf of elected politicians. This is not Britain circa 1750.
It was city property. I’m not a lawyer but it would appear to a reasonable person that city property, paid for with public taxes would be public property.
By the way, just the other day a man was told to put his sign down or get a ticket for trespassing on school board property. This is exactly the same thing.
Bingo!!!, There is also such a thing as an unlawful order given to police. To bad, they are so short in the brain department they don't know when that happens.
And I don’t see it a running trend on most police officers, but the ones who do it needs to be fired as well as the politicians who abuse ‘authority’ to force them to need to go as well.
Remember, that almost all city police are part of a union. The Union gives its orders and they follow or lose their jobs.
Anyone thinking that the majority of police in unions are going to go against the union/politicians in the coming "debate" do so at their own peril.
The Supreme Court determined that a state has the right to control the use of its own property and that the state, Florida in this case, is no less than the private owner of the jail and its property. According to the Supreme Court, nothing in the U.S. Constitution prevents a state's fair enforcement of its own criminal trespass statute against anyone refusing toobey the sheriff's order.
Anyone thinking that the majority of police in unions are going to go against the union/politicians in the coming "debate" do so at their own peril.
Police and firefighter unions aren't like other public service unions, they are actually necessary to protect their members from liberal politicians.
Your example is regarding a JAIL and the reason the SCOTUS upheld the Sheriff’s orders (Sheriff only has jurisdiction in the jail because he runs it) is for safety of criminals as well as jail personel.
Now, we are talking about a City Hall, which is NOT an establishment that the Sheriff runs.
Your argument doesn’t apply to this case.
“The Florida trespass statute, here applied to a demonstration on the premises of a jail, which is built for security purposes and is not open to the public, is aimed at conduct of a limited kind, “
This does not describe City Hall and event OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
In most states, the police can’t trespass someone on their own authority, it has to be at the request of the owner or someone with managerial authority over the property.
Oh, please either your naive as can be or are simply a deluded. What they most fear is a situation of control and will violate any constitutional protection because they know anything you can do is post facto and they are protected from suit as long as they are considered to be acting within departmental regulations and are acting in the line of duty. It takes a lot for a department to bring charges against a cop. It took the feds to investigate the Ramparts Division scandal in LA and make arrests. Remember the movie Serpico? It was not fiction. Cops defended fellow cops until they couldn’t any longer. There are very few cops who won’t, at the very least, look the other way for a fellow cop. Grow up and get a clue about the realty of what we live under. They re in a club and you aren’t part of it.
Oh, please either your naive as can be or are simply a deluded. What they most fear is a situation of control and will violate any constitutional protection because they know anything you can do is post facto and they are protected from suit as long as they are considered to be acting within departmental regulations and are acting in the line of duty. It takes a lot for a department to bring charges against a cop. It took the feds to investigate the Ramparts Division scandal in LA and make arrests. Remember the movie Serpico? It was not fiction. Cops defended fellow cops until they couldn’t any longer. There are very few cops who won’t, at the very least, look the other way for a fellow cop. Grow up and get a clue about the realty of what we live under. They re in a club and you aren’t part of it.
Well, since there is nothing we can do about it, we should go home and accept it.
Bull!
The cops have learned from our courts that the First Amendment only applies to lefties and pornographers. /sarc
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