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“No One Should Die Because They Can’t Afford Health Care” [How do we respond to this meme?]
No Third Solution ^ | Sept 4, 2009 | David Z

Posted on 09/04/2009 8:27:12 AM PDT by CMoran325

Edited on 09/04/2009 8:48:23 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: luckystarmom

I also posted this yesterday:

“Government is not the solution to our problems; government is the problem.” - Ronald Reagan


101 posted on 09/04/2009 10:03:17 AM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: RJS1950

He should add this to it LOL:
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102 posted on 09/04/2009 10:38:26 AM PDT by Trillian
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

The ER care is paid for under various acts, such as the Hill-Burton act etc.

The ER must provide you care period, which may include stabilizing you if needed and they may transfer you elsewhere once stabilized, but they are required to arrange that as well.

In terms of Chemo, last I checked, Chemo is covered my Medicare and Medicaid. As well as state only programs for the indigent and poor.

You don’t die on the street from lack of access to medical care, its a nonsensical lie.

However you can indeed die at home waiting to see the oncologist after a diagnosis of Cancer in socialized countries, because no appointments are available for 8 months.

Anyone who thinks socialized medicine is the way to go has never seen them in action.


103 posted on 09/04/2009 11:36:34 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: RJS1950

This sounds to me like the lefts defacto attempt to justify socializing health care, not a critique of it.

The problem with the US health care system as they see it, is if you get sick, you can wind up going broke. Because yes a major diagnosis can indeed be financially devastating to a person of family. However, when the choice is going broke, or being dead because you couldn’t get care, going broke isn’t the worst of the 2 options.

The issue with this debate is the left is being absolutely dishonest about what it is about. This has nothing to do with health care, or even health care reform or health care insurance reform, it has EVERYTHING to do with power and control.

Here’s the reality, if you filter out the illegals, and the people who voluntarily opt out of health care insurnace you are left with 8 Million uninsured americans. We could buy decent private policies for all of these 8 Million americans for a total price of about $29 BILLION a year.

Congress has hundreds of times this still sitting unspent in TARP money, if they were serious about insuring these people they could move money out of there today to insure them. They won’t and they don’t, because THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HEALTH CARE INSURANCE OR REFORM!

Its simply about CONTROL.

How can you remotely state you are talking about reforming the system, when TORT REFORM isn’t even on the table??

Be serious folks, anyone who thinks this has anything to do with “reform” is an ignorant dupe, or a ideological radical.


104 posted on 09/04/2009 11:44:31 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: CMoran325

Just got this idiocy posted on FB. Is there a site that will prove the statisitcal manipulation that I can post?

“We pay far more than any country for care, yet life expectancy in the US is the lowest, and families are destroyed with the bills. It is time for change.”


105 posted on 09/04/2009 1:45:06 PM PDT by Grammy (politics... poli ( many ) tics ( blood suckers ))
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To: luckystarmom
>>>I like that one!!<<<

Thanks! Net, net that's what it's all about. All's fair if I take care of my little "nitch" and you take care of your little "nitch". And its still fair if I decide I want to help you take care of your "nitch" - its called charity.

But when the Government demands thru taxes that it is my duty to give to others - before I even consider my own - then it's morphed into coercion and tyranny.

106 posted on 09/04/2009 8:50:39 PM PDT by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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To: kabar
>>>We have 60 million people on Medicaid. 37% of all births in the US are funded by Medicaid. There are 35 million people collecting foodstamps. The idea that Americans are being denied health care is nonsense.<<<

Wow - I knew that the numbers were large - but I had no idea that they were this mind-boggling.

Do you have a source for these stats?? I would like to quote them to some liberal friends and on a couple of blogs I frequent....want to be sure of my facts.

The one that really staggered me was Medicade - 65 million! Yikes.

107 posted on 09/04/2009 8:59:39 PM PDT by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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To: HardStarboard
Medicaid: Biggest insurer is a budget buster
108 posted on 09/04/2009 9:30:12 PM PDT by kabar
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To: mockingbyrd

Excellent! I took this from Michelle Malkin’s Wall on FB and posted it as my status (someone posted in response to the other liberal FB status):

“No one should die because the Government is involved with health care, and no one should go broke because government taxes and spends everything we make. If you agree (that government is the problem and never a good solution) please post this as your status for the rest of the day.”


109 posted on 09/05/2009 2:09:44 PM PDT by jdhljc169
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To: CMoran325

Why should I die so others can have health care?


110 posted on 09/26/2009 6:10:37 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!)
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