Posted on 09/04/2009 8:27:12 AM PDT by CMoran325
Edited on 09/04/2009 8:48:23 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
For many people (and yes I’m jumping to conclusions and making sweeping generalizations here) “No one should die because they can’t afford health care” is the weasel way of saying “I want someone else to pay for it” without sounding like a panhandler. So, take what follows with a grain of salt, OK?
On that note, someone’s Facebook status said:
No one should die because they cannot afford health care, and no one should go broke because they get sick. If you agree, please post this as your status for the rest of the day.
No one should die just because they were born in sub-Saharan Africa, either. But they do. Doesn’t make it fair, but it happens. For every “poor” or underprivileged Westerner complaining about their lack of “health care” (NB: even the poorest Americans have access to better health care than, I would venture to guess, 85% of the earth’s population has ever had), there are a million people living on $1 and a cup of rice each day — so cry me a fucking river.
Every one of us will die at the crossroads of some particular circumstances, time, and place.
Some of us die in our sleep. Some of us are merely in “the wrong place at the wrong time.” Some of us will die because the technology to cure what ails us has not yet been invented. Some of us will die because we made poor choices that presently impact our ability to care for ourselves. And some of us will die unfortunately through no direct fault of our own, because we can’t afford to pay for the technology that does exist.
To lament the fact that some people die under seemingly inopportune circumstances is folly; it ignores the lion’s share of the equation. Financial circumstances are a scapegoat, because at nearly any time and place where the individual isn’t DOA, a change in financial circumstances might forestall death for a few hours, days, weeks, or months.
You’ll get no arguments from me, if you say that “health care is too expensive”: blame the AMA cartel, the FDA, blame “Big Insurance”, etc. But National Healthcare is healthcare fascism, the insurers want guaranteed profits, guaranteed customers for life, and Uncle Sam to pay the bills. They want to sell you your own welfare.
You’ll get no arguments from me, if you say that “the system” needs to be reformed: specifically it needs to not be a system at all. People aren’t permitted under the law to care for themselves or to arrange for the care of others. Or because the consumer is not the customer, and the customer enjoys certain tax privileges that the consumer does not, etc. Or because people have been conditioned to believe that “insurance” should pay for an annual check-up and dental exams and all sorts of other routine maintenance instead of just providing for accidents and serious illnesses.
The problem is that health care, medicine, long term care, etc., is damned expensive. Government is the problem in health care, which keeps it unaffordable.
Asking or forcing others to pay the costs which you can’t afford will do nothing to actually solve that problem, it just shifts the burden, [expletive deleted] up someone else’s life circumstances, exacerbating the problem for the future.
I also posted this yesterday:
“Government is not the solution to our problems; government is the problem.” - Ronald Reagan
He should add this to it LOL:
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The ER care is paid for under various acts, such as the Hill-Burton act etc.
The ER must provide you care period, which may include stabilizing you if needed and they may transfer you elsewhere once stabilized, but they are required to arrange that as well.
In terms of Chemo, last I checked, Chemo is covered my Medicare and Medicaid. As well as state only programs for the indigent and poor.
You don’t die on the street from lack of access to medical care, its a nonsensical lie.
However you can indeed die at home waiting to see the oncologist after a diagnosis of Cancer in socialized countries, because no appointments are available for 8 months.
Anyone who thinks socialized medicine is the way to go has never seen them in action.
This sounds to me like the lefts defacto attempt to justify socializing health care, not a critique of it.
The problem with the US health care system as they see it, is if you get sick, you can wind up going broke. Because yes a major diagnosis can indeed be financially devastating to a person of family. However, when the choice is going broke, or being dead because you couldn’t get care, going broke isn’t the worst of the 2 options.
The issue with this debate is the left is being absolutely dishonest about what it is about. This has nothing to do with health care, or even health care reform or health care insurance reform, it has EVERYTHING to do with power and control.
Here’s the reality, if you filter out the illegals, and the people who voluntarily opt out of health care insurnace you are left with 8 Million uninsured americans. We could buy decent private policies for all of these 8 Million americans for a total price of about $29 BILLION a year.
Congress has hundreds of times this still sitting unspent in TARP money, if they were serious about insuring these people they could move money out of there today to insure them. They won’t and they don’t, because THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HEALTH CARE INSURANCE OR REFORM!
Its simply about CONTROL.
How can you remotely state you are talking about reforming the system, when TORT REFORM isn’t even on the table??
Be serious folks, anyone who thinks this has anything to do with “reform” is an ignorant dupe, or a ideological radical.
Just got this idiocy posted on FB. Is there a site that will prove the statisitcal manipulation that I can post?
“We pay far more than any country for care, yet life expectancy in the US is the lowest, and families are destroyed with the bills. It is time for change.”
Thanks! Net, net that's what it's all about. All's fair if I take care of my little "nitch" and you take care of your little "nitch". And its still fair if I decide I want to help you take care of your "nitch" - its called charity.
But when the Government demands thru taxes that it is my duty to give to others - before I even consider my own - then it's morphed into coercion and tyranny.
Wow - I knew that the numbers were large - but I had no idea that they were this mind-boggling.
Do you have a source for these stats?? I would like to quote them to some liberal friends and on a couple of blogs I frequent....want to be sure of my facts.
The one that really staggered me was Medicade - 65 million! Yikes.
Excellent! I took this from Michelle Malkin’s Wall on FB and posted it as my status (someone posted in response to the other liberal FB status):
“No one should die because the Government is involved with health care, and no one should go broke because government taxes and spends everything we make. If you agree (that government is the problem and never a good solution) please post this as your status for the rest of the day.”
Why should I die so others can have health care?
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