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Desperate Dems Recycle Tired Ideas
The Provocateur ^ | 09/03/2009 | Mike Volpe

Posted on 09/03/2009 7:24:56 AM PDT by fiscon1

I'm trying to think of the best metaphor to describe this. In my head, I see a car stuck in the mud. The wheels are spinning but the car goes nowhere. In any case, here's the latest rumor coming out of D.C.

Senate Democrats are revisiting proposals to raise taxes on high-income people to help pay for an overhaul of the health-care system.

The main proposal getting renewed attention is one by President Barack Obama that would limit the federal tax deductions for higher-income families for mortgage interest and other widely claimed purposes, said two senior Senate Democratic aides.

(Excerpt) Read more at theeprovocateur.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: dems; healthcare; obama; taxes

1 posted on 09/03/2009 7:24:56 AM PDT by fiscon1
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To: fiscon1

The statists’ central premise is the oldest in history: We can build a temple all the way to heaven.


2 posted on 09/03/2009 7:26:59 AM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

They forget that the Rich have Feet.


3 posted on 09/03/2009 7:27:40 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: fiscon1
Tax, tax, tax the rich...they have plenty of money to burn!

Spread the wealth around!!

4 posted on 09/03/2009 7:27:41 AM PDT by NMEwithin
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To: fiscon1

I wonder what ever happened to the equal protection clause of the 14th ammendment?


5 posted on 09/03/2009 7:29:34 AM PDT by tractorman
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To: fiscon1
It's a good time for a truly novel idea. Why don't the Republicans try "recycling" the Founders' ideas that made America prosperous and free in the first place?

For starters, he following essay, is reprinted with permission from "Our Ageless Constitution." See

If you read the following on another thread, just skip it, but it's message is important.

Freedom Of Individual Enterprise

The Economic Dimension Of Liberty Protected By The Constitution

"Agriculture, manufactures, commerce, and navigation, the four pillars of our prosperity, are the most thriving when left most free to individual enterprise." - Thomas Jefferson

"The enviable condition of the people of the United States is often too much ascribed to the physical advantages of their soil & climate .... But a just estimate of the happiness of our country will never overlook what belongs to the fertile activity of a free people and the benign influence of a responsible government." - James Madison

America's Constitution did not mention freedom of enterprise per se, but it did set up a system of laws to secure individual liberty and freedom of choice in keeping with Creator-endowed natural rights. Out of these, free enterprise flourished naturally. Even though the words "free enterprise' are not in the Constitution, the concept was uppermost in the minds of the Founders, typified by the remarks of Jefferson and Madison as quoted above. Already, in 1787, Americans were enjoying the rewards of individual enterprise and free markets. Their dedication was to securing that freedom for posterity.

The learned men drafting America's Constitution understood history - mankind's struggle against poverty and government oppression. And they had studied the ideas of the great thinkers and philosophers. They were familiar with the near starvation of the early Jamestown settlers under a communal production and distribution system and Governor Bradford's diary account of how all benefited after agreement that each family could do as it wished with the fruits of its own labors. Later, in 1776, Adam Smith's INQUIRY INTO THE NATURE AND CAUSES OF THE WEALTH OF NATIONS and Say's POLITICAL ECONOMY had come at just the right time and were perfectly compatible with the Founders' own passion for individual liberty. Jefferson said these were the best books to be had for forming governments based on principles of freedom. They saw a free market economy as the natural result of their ideal of liberty. They feared concentrations of power and the coercion that planners can use in planning other peoples lives; and they valued freedom of choice and acceptance of responsibility of the consequences of such choice as being the very essence of liberty. They envisioned a large and prosperous republic of free people, unhampered by government interference.

The Founders believed the American people, possessors of deeply rooted character and values, could prosper if left free to:

  • acquire and own property
  • have access to free markets
  • produce what they wanted
  • work for whom and at what they wanted
  • travel and live where they would choose
  • acquire goods and services which they desired

Such a free market economy was, to them, the natural result of liberty, carried out in the economic dimension of life. Their philosophy tend­ed to enlarge individual freedom - not to restrict or diminish the individual's right to make choices and to succeed or fail based on those choices. The economic role of their Constitutional government was simply to secure rights and encourage commerce. Through the Constitution, they granted their government some very limited powers to:

Adam Smith called it "the system of natural liberty." James Madison referred to it as "the benign influence of a responsible government." Others have called it the free enterprise system. By whatever name it is called, the economic system envisioned by the Founders and encouraged by the Constitution allowed individual enterprise to flourish and triggered the greatest explosion of economic progress in all of history. Americans became the first people truly to realize the economic dimension of liberty.


Footnote: Our Ageless Constitution, W. David Stedman & La Vaughn G. Lewis, Editors (Asheboro, NC, W. David Stedman Associates, 1987) Part III:  ISBN 0-937047-01-5

6 posted on 09/03/2009 7:32:00 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: fiscon1
Hmmm...recycling are they?

Nope, just blowing more smoke...and I have smelled it all before as have most Americans.

Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and their cohorts will lie, blow smoke, deceive, cajole, and give as many Presidential speeches, presentations, addresses to congress, etc. as it takes to draw this out so he can continue progressing towwards his goals. When you understand this about him and his administration and the cohorts in the House and Senate...everything comes into focus.

Luckily, their over-reach on health care has awakened a large part of the American citizenry.

Because health care effects everyone, and because the American people intrinsically know that government bureaucracy makes things less efficient, the American people are downloading the Dem Health Care Plan HERE and elsewhere and reading it for themselves.

They are also reading the cited quotes of the main architect of the plan and Chief Advisor to Obama on Health Care HERE and elsewhere, and seeing the context of the plan from the designer of it.

So, when other Americans and conservatives like Sarah Palin declares that the PLan is a monstrosity and that it is downright evil, they know for themselves that it is true.

Thus, the American people (the proverbial giant) is waking up and the question is now can they wake up quickly enough, can they make such an out and out hue and cry and force enough democratic and RINO representatives to be more afraid of then, the constituents for their political life than they are of Pelosi, Reid, and Obama and stop the Health Care plan.

Then, can they maintain that energy long enough to completely route the democrats, despite ACORN and voter fraud, in 2010?

I believe we can. And I hope and pray that the events in DC of 912 punctuate this and make it clear.


EZEKIEL EMANUEL AND OBAMA HEALTH CARE

(Must Read - Shocking, cited quotes by Emanuel)


OBAMA HEALTH CARE BY THE NUMBERS


AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY

A PETITION ON FACEBOOK FOR CONSTITUTIONAL RESTORATION


ANTI-OBMA POSTERS - FREE HIGH RES DOWNLOADS

7 posted on 09/03/2009 7:33:15 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: fiscon1

How interesting. Where are our ideas? Seriously, where are they? What republican has put out an idea on health care reform? I’ve seen lots of talking points, I see no plan coming out of the republicans, none, zero, nada. Or at least, none that they’ve communicated to the American people/


8 posted on 09/03/2009 7:36:50 AM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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John Shadegg has a bill that will transport health insurance across state lines. Bob Bennet teamed with Ron Wyden, a Dem, for a very good proposal. Jim DeMint has a bill. Paul Ryan has a bill. What are you talking about?


9 posted on 09/03/2009 7:59:01 AM PDT by fiscon1
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I’m talking about I keep hearing critics, but very little ideas. I’m glad to hear that some of these guys have bills (I will research all three you posted), I think they need to be pushed a lot more. “Let’s look at OUR plan,” etc. Right now, it’s just doom and gloom. I agree that it’s working, but we have to show leadership if we’re going to turn the tide.


10 posted on 09/03/2009 8:10:31 AM PDT by domenad (In all things, in all ways, at all times, let honor guide me.)
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