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U.S. Government Killing Dialysis Patients
Publius Forum ^ | 09/01/09 | Warner Todd Huston

Posted on 09/01/2009 9:58:35 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus

Want an example of why government healthcare in the U.S. is a dangerous proposition? USA Today has a lengthy story on kidney dialysis and how new research is showing that having dialysis treatments more often seems to be keeping patients alive and healthy longer than the traditional thrice weekly treatments. The piece also sadly shows that the U.S. has higher rates of early death of dialysis patients than other western nations.

Why is that, you might wonder? It’s because Medicare won’t pay for more than three treatments a week so the national standard has become thrice weekly because that is what government will pay for. Not only that but government won’t pay for medical services ancillary to dialysis causing patients to succumb to other problems that often accompany or presage kidney failure.

Read the rest at Publiusforum.com...


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Local News; Politics
KEYWORDS: healthcare; obama; socializedmedicine
God it will be a nightmare when Obamacare passes.
1 posted on 09/01/2009 9:58:35 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Trueblackman

Kevin, you need to know about this if you dont already.

FS


2 posted on 09/01/2009 10:03:02 AM PDT by freespirited (The only thing growing faster than the deficit is Chris Matthews' man crush on Obama -- Tim Pawlenty)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Be careful what you wish for, Jerome!


3 posted on 09/01/2009 10:03:59 AM PDT by DrNo ("Facts are stubborn things..." John Adams)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

He is counting on these deaths with his healthcare bill. The same will happen for people who need chemo, insulin, etc. ANYTHING that can sustain life will not be given.

Bring out the tumbrels citizens, looks like we need to do this French style...


4 posted on 09/01/2009 10:03:59 AM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: Mobile Vulgus

There is hope for a wearable version:

http://esciencenews.com/articles/2009/08/20/hello.wearable.kidney.goodbye.dialysis.machine


5 posted on 09/01/2009 10:08:20 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Mobile Vulgus
Unless of course you are an illegal alien then you go to the front of the line and your care is provided free of charge!!
6 posted on 09/01/2009 10:19:46 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Democrat - The new Party of National Socialism. Pelosi and Kosmas - founding members.)
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To: Atom Smasher
People are in the process of getting themselves "psyched up" for the trumbrels.

A sure sign that it is coming close will be an increase in the leftist suppression of conservatives; increased insults, physical attacks, voting fraud. We will know when it is time. We always have, and there is not a damned thing that the left can do to stop it.

7 posted on 09/01/2009 10:35:38 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

In Canada if your 60 or over, you just get sent home to die. No dialysis for the elderly.


8 posted on 09/01/2009 10:43:58 AM PDT by Birdsbane ("Onward through the fog!" ... Oat Willie)
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To: Birdsbane

In the UK, if you are over 58, and new dialysis patient, you pay for it at private centers. Used to be about 50 grand a year. If you are on dialysis at 57, you are clear. My bro in law is a nephrologist and told me this. He hasn’t been in practice in 10 years so it could change.

THere is home dialysis which he did and said they had to ration it until medicare started to pay for it.


9 posted on 09/01/2009 10:53:17 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: taxcontrol

Yeah why not work on CHEAPER methods of dialyzing rather than killing the patient? Same with imaging - instead of denying the potentially life-saving MRI, why not work to make all imaging cheaper?


10 posted on 09/01/2009 10:54:14 AM PDT by ichabod1 (I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet (GOP Poet))
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To: Birdsbane

You know if the US goes to this approach, medical innovation is just going to STOP at 2009 levels. If we don’t treat the elderly, there isn’t going to be enough market to make innovation worthwhile just for younger people.


11 posted on 09/01/2009 10:56:23 AM PDT by ichabod1 (I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet (GOP Poet))
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

AMEN!


12 posted on 09/01/2009 11:07:22 AM PDT by Atom Smasher
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To: ichabod1
You know if the US goes to this approach, medical innovation is just going to STOP at 2009 levels.

It won't just be the elderly, either. On the other end of the scale, we have the extremely innovative but cost-intensive field of neonatology. Notice that Ezekiel Emmanuel's life "curve" of  age groups who should be treated with preference doesn't begin to rise sharply until late childhood.

Preemies, and at-risk newborns will be next. They just don't talk much about killing the very young and imperfect -- it would make them seem heartless. So, like the Euros, those "changes" in policy will happen gradually, over time, once everyone is dependent on government health care.

13 posted on 09/01/2009 11:16:31 AM PDT by browardchad
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To: browardchad

It’s just so typical of these stupid commies, they don’t seem to realize that cutting off the financial benefit for innovation will impact the nomenklatura as well.


14 posted on 09/01/2009 12:24:48 PM PDT by ichabod1 (I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet (GOP Poet))
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To: Mobile Vulgus

My master’s thesis explored how changes in government reimbursement policies in the 1970s actually raised the cost of hemodialysis. By the 1980s however reductions in reimbursement was forcing some dialysis centers to re-use their artificial kidney filters contrary to the manufactures and FDA recommendations. In 1974 when Medicare was extended to all patients in end stage kidney failure regardless of age, the estimated cost of the program was $4 million. Today dialysis and kidney transplants are close to 20% of all Medicare expenditures. The Medicare renal disease program is a textbook example of why we should never allow the government to run health care.


15 posted on 09/01/2009 1:25:41 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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To: freespirited

F/S
Thanks for the information and I missed the article in print as well. Trying to get my Doctor to put me on the Home Dialysis ASAP too.


16 posted on 09/02/2009 4:49:25 PM PDT by Trueblackman (Posting a 100% of the time without the help of a teleprompter)
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