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From the Pen of David Horowitz: August 30, 2009
NewsReal Blog ^ | August 30, 2009 | David Horowitz

Posted on 08/30/2009 10:11:27 AM PDT by HorowitzianConservative

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The insinuation -- the vulgar Marxist insinuation -- that my conservative politics is a plot to make money is typical of Conason (indeed, as was the subject of his first attack on me, inspired by my first Salon column). Does anyone wonder why conservatives regard socialism as envy gussied up as a political cause? Although my parents were communists, after adolescence I never was, in either practice or theory.

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1 posted on 08/30/2009 10:11:27 AM PDT by HorowitzianConservative
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To: HorowitzianConservative

Horowitz has always been one of my heroes.
He has seen both sides and KNOWS FIRST HAND what the left is up to.

God bless him.


2 posted on 08/30/2009 10:18:14 AM PDT by babyfreep
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To: HorowitzianConservative
"Does anyone wonder why conservatives regard socialism as envy gussied up as a political cause?"

That's exactly what socialism is, the "have nots" envying the "haves" and using politics to take what they can't earn themselves. Politicians love this kind of sentiment among voters, they are easily manipulated so that any joker who promises to "spread the wealth" can rise to power on the backs of the jealous ones.

3 posted on 08/30/2009 10:31:24 AM PDT by jiminycricket000
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To: HorowitzianConservative; Liz
Socialism:Envy gussied up as a political cause...

ping

4 posted on 08/30/2009 10:32:48 AM PDT by GOPJ (Socialism : Envy gussied up as a political cause...... David Horowitz)
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To: HorowitzianConservative
Although my parents were communists, after adolescence I never was, in either practice or theory. I was always a new-leftist critic of communism.

Being critical of communists is hardly the be-all and end-all of anything. The national socialist Hitler was critical of communists.

And frankly, if I saw someone identical to the David Horowitz of the 1960s operating in American politics today I'd rightly call him a communist.

5 posted on 08/30/2009 10:42:42 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can have freedom. You can have socialism. But you can't have both! www.AIPNEWS.com)
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To: GOPJ

Thanks for the heads up.


6 posted on 08/30/2009 10:44:55 AM PDT by Liz (When people fear govt, we have tyranny; when govt fears the people, we have freedom.)
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To: HorowitzianConservative

Does anyone wonder why conservatives regard socialism as envy gussied up as a political cause?
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That’s well put. I’m adapting it for my tagline


7 posted on 08/30/2009 11:04:27 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Socialism: The sin of envy masquerading as a political movement.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Politely disagree.

You wouldn’t call a Baptist a Catholic when debating him would you? Then it doesn’t make much sense to call a New Leftist a Communist.

I had a post about this a while back:
http://newsrealblog.com/2009/08/07/progressive-socialist-just-different-denominations-in-the-church-of-the-left/

We should be in tune to the different denominations within the Church of the Left and adjust our rhetoric and our strategies accordingly if we’re to be effective in defending the American Idea.

Treating all leftists like communists is like lecturing a Baptist about why it’s not good to have Popes. It just comes off as ignorant and is ultimately ineffective.

Just because one is a leftist doesn’t mean they’re a communist.


8 posted on 08/30/2009 11:04:41 AM PDT by HorowitzianConservative
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To: HorowitzianConservative
Distinctions without differences that matter in any meaningful way.

Practicing Baptists and practicing Catholics all profess Christ and His teachings.

Communists and fascists and socialists and "New Leftists" all proclaim a godless ideology and worldview that is foreign to the founding principles of America.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men...

9 posted on 08/30/2009 11:13:32 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can have freedom. You can have socialism. But you can't have both! www.AIPNEWS.com)
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To: EternalVigilance

There are meaningful differences, just as there are meaningful differences between Catholics and Baptists.

Communists/fascists/socialist don’t all proclaim one ideology. They might be united in their rejection of the American Idea but I’m talking about strategy here my friend.

If you look at everything as a nail you’re going to find that you’ll have a hard time hammering in screws.

Adjust tactics and rhetoric depending on which denomination of the Left you’re dealing with. Don’t just call them all communists. If you want a blanket term then call them leftists or anti-Americans. But communism isn’t the right term.


10 posted on 08/30/2009 11:36:32 AM PDT by HorowitzianConservative
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To: EternalVigilance

I’m glad, EV, that he’s not a “new leftist” anymore. (I call him “one who knows”.)
From what I’ve read, it sounds like he turned against the communist ideology in the 60s because it wasn’t “communist enough” and had turned more totalitarian.

Isn’t that the reason why true communism won’t work?


11 posted on 08/30/2009 11:41:10 AM PDT by babyfreep
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To: HorowitzianConservative

I can read. I know who Horowitz associated himself with in the sixties, and they were a bunch of Communists. Playing with words won’t change that.


12 posted on 08/30/2009 11:47:54 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (You can have freedom. You can have socialism. But you can't have both! www.AIPNEWS.com)
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