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August Becomes Deadliest Month for U.S. Troops in the War in Afghanistan - Video 8/28/09
Freedom's Lighthouse ^ | August 29, 2009 | BrianinMO

Posted on 08/29/2009 8:57:59 AM PDT by Federalist Patriot

Here is a video report on the fact that August 2009 has now become the single deadliest month in the War in Afghanistan since it started almost eight years ago. At least 45 U.S. Troops have been killed this month.

As U.S. Troops continuing pushing further into Taliban strongholds, deadly "IEDs" (Improvised Explosive Devices) are taking their toll. IED attacks are up 114% in the last month. _________________________

Just as we infused Iraq with a "Surge" of troops, it is going to take a determined commitment to destroy the Taliban in Afghanistan and Pakistan. But it is doubtful Obama is going to have the will to do what is necessary to bring that to pass. The Left of the Democratic Party are already enraged at him over Health Care and the fact he has not pulled troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan more quickly. . . . . (Watch Video)

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; fallen; ied; oef; third100days

1 posted on 08/29/2009 8:57:59 AM PDT by Federalist Patriot
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To: Federalist Patriot

With Holder going after the CIA and with the rules of engagement being changed in Afghanistan (which our troops should well ignore and fight the Taliban and Al Qaeda to win), it is clear the Obummer government is taking a page from the LBJ playbook on how to lose a war in three easy steps.


2 posted on 08/29/2009 9:01:03 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: Ev Reeman

Could not agree more. I’m afraid it is going to be a disaster because they simply will not do what is necessary to get the job done.


3 posted on 08/29/2009 9:13:23 AM PDT by Federalist Patriot
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To: Federalist Patriot

Come on, where are the protesters? The signs that say “No blood for oil,” “Our kids are dying,” etc., etc...It was good for one war, why isn’t it for the other under this president, you libtards?

Thought so. Hypocrites.


4 posted on 08/29/2009 9:13:26 AM PDT by swatbuznik
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To: Federalist Patriot
I cannot imagine under what restrictions our US Military is now onducting the war in Afghanistan. It is a shame that this no good sob is now the CIC of our brave men and women.
Also where is the anti-war crowd and the bleeding heart State-run media. If this were the situation with GW it would be on the news 24/7. The media along with BHO is disgusting....totally disgusting.
5 posted on 08/29/2009 9:20:58 AM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: Federalist Patriot

Where, oh where, are the Code Pink anti-war freaks? The group must’ve dissolved once the war became Hussein’s and not Bush’s.


6 posted on 08/29/2009 9:22:31 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: MayflowerMadam

Actually, they are still protesting but the media has blacked them out.


7 posted on 08/29/2009 9:24:34 AM PDT by mazda77 (Rubio for US Senate)
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To: mazda77

Let’s all get together and buy a bus and a huge bullhorn for Cindy Sheehan!


8 posted on 08/29/2009 9:27:48 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: Federalist Patriot; Ev Reeman; Mr. Wright; mazda77
There are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world and we cannot kill all of them. The way to deal with any Islamic (Islamicist) movement is to enlist the sane Muzzies to liquidate the insane Muzzies because we have convinced them that if they do not police the crazies in their own religion either we will kill them or the Islamists will. Even if we could kill them all, the mothers of America will never tolerate the kind of casualties required to do so unless you want to go nuclear in which case we in America will not be able to tolerate ourselves..

It’s time to get down to the business of thinking about America's strategic interests. What do we want to accomplish in Afghanistan? Obviously, we want to leave a country in place which does not support terrorism. That would be nice, but does it make us any safer? No. Because, so long as Waziristan provides a sanctuary for terrorism, it doesn't matter whether the terrorists also have Afghanistan. The problem compounds, if you want to leave Afghanistan a place which is not safe for terrorists you must also convert northwestern Pakistan into a place which is not safe for terrorists. If one of these places is not permanently "pacified" the other will equally not be pacified.

How do we propose to do that, with American boots on the ground? With 50% of America against the war in Afghanistan, what percentage of America do you judge will support putting troops into Pakistan? Assuming you can get public support for putting troops into Pakistan, can you be sure that the Pakistani government will not oppose our troops? Can you be sure that the Pakistani government will not threaten to use nuclear weapons against our troops? Even if such a threat were hollow when made, can we afford to disregard it? Can you see an end game to the pacification of Waziristan? I cannot. Neither could Winston Churchill more than a century ago.

Could it be done with drones and conventional air power working in close alliance with the Pakistani government and with some tribes in Waziristan? I do not know. As in every war America fights, we are in a foot race between our own casualty count and the enemy. Some might argue that the Serbs were pacified by air power alone, but is Afghanistan the same as Yugoslavia? Does not history teach us that "pacification" unavoidably means occupation? Have we figured out how to do that in places like Afghanistan and Pakistan without unacceptable casualty counts?

Can we enlist Muslim boots to substitute for American boots on the ground? Is this not the key question?

If casualty counts are not problematic enough, do we have the money? How broke are we? Is the debt growing to 11 trillion? Will the entitlements inexorably carry us to $26 million, as recently reported? It has now become a real question whether we can finance such a war.

While we are exercising our vision about how to pacify Waziristan, can we be sure that our efforts will not radicalize the reasonably sane portion of the Muslim population of Pakistan further against America? Will it turn the military against us? The Secret Police? What about those people who control the nukes? How much would take for people like A. Q. Khan who sold nuclear secrets to turn over some nukes to the Taliban or other terrorists in retaliation?

Would an American invasion with ground forces into the Northwest of Pakistan make that more or less likely? How do you know? But can we conduct our foreign policy out of fear or should we simply pursue our own best interests and let the chips fall where they may? According to Michael Scheuer, ex-of the CIA and responsible for watching bin Laden, we are not acting and have not been acting in pursuit of our own interests for years. He says that's why we are fighting these wars in the first

So we come back to my initial premise which is we must enlist the sane Muzzies to fight our war for us. We cannot win it alone. The way we enlist support from Muzzies is to show them who is boss. They respect power and they despise appeasement.

But let us not deceive ourselves. It required only 19 Muzzies to bring down the World Trade Center and kill 3000 Americans. We can kill all the Muzzies in Afghanistan, and they will still be able to scrape up from somewhere among the godforsaken corners of the world another 19 Muzzies to deliver what this time might be a weapon of mass destruction. And that weapon might just come from Pakistan. We cannot hope to conquer and hold every square inch of territory between the Atlantic coast of Africa and the western border of China in order to stop the formation of a terrorist squad only nineteen men (or women) strong.

So the war is primarily a war of intelligence. After we wring all the benefits we can out of our listening devices, we need indispensable local knowledge. Human intelligence must primarily come from the Muslim world because they have the language, the culture, and the tribal affiliation which we could never hope to penetrate. But we can hope to suborn them, turn one tribe against another, as the French did in North America and the British did so successfully in India and Pakistan. But conquering and holding territory is not the answer; it is probably not even the means to the answer.

A war of intelligence is primarily a war of alliances.

So when we do our strategic thinking about what the interests of America are in places like Afghanistan, we ought to consider what our goals are there and how we can accomplish them. Putting boots on the turf and holding it as an end in itself is worse than useless, I fear it is self-defeating.

Putting boots on the ground and fighting only to a stalemate is the equivalent of defeat because unnerves our allies, encourages our enemies, and dispirits our grieving mothers. Rather than intimidating Muslim governments to cooperate with us, it encourages them to pander to their street. Intelligence suffers. When intelligence suffers it actually makes us more vulnerable, not less.

Whatever we do, must be done decisively and successfully or not at all.

Until we're able to answer fundamental questions and articulate exactly what troops there can accomplish and at what cost, we are just spending blood and treasure without purpose.


9 posted on 08/29/2009 10:02:13 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford

All Muslims are not the enemy.

The only ones that are the enemy are the radicals, the extremists, the jihadists who hate us and will never like us no matter what we do. Such is the Taliban and Al Qaeda.


10 posted on 08/29/2009 10:04:51 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: Federalist Patriot

I pray for our soldiers every day. It hurts me so much to read about our casualties. I always think about the families they leave behind.

Every time I read something like this, I am reminded of the 20 year old from my area killed not long ago in Afghanistan. The local rag covered the funeral and published pictures of his mother and father. The sorrow on their faces was just terrible to see.

May God protect them all.


11 posted on 08/29/2009 10:07:29 AM PDT by SamiGirl
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