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Does anyone live in a home with a Cold War era bomb shelter?

Posted on 08/21/2009 8:29:21 AM PDT by Nikas777

I would like to ask if any Freeper lives in a home with a Cold War era bomb shelter?

If so, what is it used for now? Still an emergency shelter or just for storage?

The reason I ask is I live in Queens, NY and growing up in the 80s and 90s I still saw what I assume were Cold War era early warning sirens - painted Green and buildings with the fall out shelter radiation sign.

I visited some of these areas recently and the apartment building that had that used to have that fall out shelter sign no longer displayed it.

I thank you in advance for your time in any response I get.

PS: If you did live in a home with such a fall out shelter I would love to hear a brief recollection of your memory of it. Also welcomed are those that have built or are building a modern survival shelter. How are you building it? Home made? Pre-fabricated? Costs, etc.


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To: Nikas777

The only drawback is it only accomodates two persons.


41 posted on 08/21/2009 9:43:46 AM PDT by MCCC
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To: Nikas777
We had a bomb shelter in the basement of the home I grew up in, reinforced beams and supports into which bricks and sand were loaded (for protection from radiation) and we kept it stocked, rotated water, food and first aid supplies, and my Dad's view was 'hope for the best, prepare for the worst' and I have embraced that philosophy.

One of the most brazen lies of the liberal crowd is to cite the classroom practice of 'hiding under the desk' (i.e. 'duck and cover') as being a futile gesture, they say "a cheap student desk won't protect you from an atomic bomb!" but what they either don't comprehend (or deliberately avoid as fact) is that the practice of diving under our desks was NOT based on the hope that it might save us from an actual nuclear detonation, it was the practical view that by hiding under our desks, we might avoid the shards of flying glass and debris that would inevitably come when the blast wave struck the school building. Nobody was deluding themselves that a student desk offered any direct blast protection.

One website you might find interesting is Conelrad.Com:

http://www.conelrad.com

It is a little tongue-in-cheek but has a fair amount of historical material.

If you know what the AM radio frequencies 640 and 1240 kilocycles were intended for, you're already off to a good start. ;)
42 posted on 08/21/2009 9:44:09 AM PDT by mkjessup ("Just Say No" to the illegal 0bamunist Regime of Occupation. The 'Dear Comrade' can Kiss My Ass.)
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To: nascarnation
I had it filled in when we razed the outbuilding to build a new one.

You created a future archeological find!

43 posted on 08/21/2009 9:44:40 AM PDT by Nikas777 (En touto nika, "In this, be victorious")
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To: mkjessup
One of the most brazen lies of the liberal crowd is to cite the classroom practice of 'hiding under the desk' (i.e. 'duck and cover') as being a futile gesture, they say "a cheap student desk won't protect you from an atomic bomb!" but what they either don't comprehend (or deliberately avoid as fact) is that the practice of diving under our desks was NOT based on the hope that it might save us from an actual nuclear detonation, it was the practical view that by hiding under our desks, we might avoid the shards of flying glass and debris that would inevitably come when the blast wave struck the school building. Nobody was deluding themselves that a student desk offered any direct blast protection.

I said the same thing up at post # 21

I wrote:

Nowadays everyone talks of a nuclear exchange as envisioned during the Cold War as wiping all life away in an instant. The reality is that those drills could have saved lots of lives just a few miles from a blast site.

Sometimes I wondered if the Left just did or said stuff like that to leave us defenseless? Switzerland still by law active bomb shelters as part of building requirements.

44 posted on 08/21/2009 9:50:06 AM PDT by Nikas777 (En touto nika, "In this, be victorious")
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To: BGHater

There used to be a series on either Discovery or History Channel called “Hidden Places” that would occasionally cover bombshelters.

The most interesting one was up in the Seattle area. Self-designed by the home-owner, he built the thing under his house over the course of 15 years. By hand. Literally - he hauled out the dirt using 5-gallon buckets and all the materials he moved in were through a 3’ diameter entrance way. Thing had just about as much space as his house (standard raised ranch), over three levels. With three blast-door entrances/exits, redundant air filtration systems and multiple mantraps.

And apparently without his family having any idea what he was up to. They only learned about it (or at least the extent of what he’d built) after he died.

To say the thing was impressive is an understatement. When the show was over with I looked at my wife and said something about it being the ultimate man-cave ... and she just glared back at me and said “Don’t even THINK about it”.


45 posted on 08/21/2009 10:00:32 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Nikas777

The leftists in our society have always believed that if we (REAL Americans) would not submit to being ‘red’ (as in Communist), that we SHOULD be ‘dead’.

America has dodged some ominous bullets, the first of which was the pro-Communist Henry Wallace who, had he not been dropped from FDR’s ticket in 1944 and replaced by Harry S Truman, would have led America down the path that 0bama is trying so hard to do now.

The second ‘bullet’ was the failure of George McGovern to win the Presidency in ‘72. It was laughable to think he would somehow win an upset victory over Nixon but crazier things have happened, such as the third ‘bullet’, manifested in the election of the Buffoon from Georgia, Jimmy STP Carter.

The current usurper notwithstanding, I contend that the most serious threats to America’s continued existence were the potential presidencies of Wallace and McGovern, and the wall-to-wall incompetence and political malpractice that personified the Carter years.

Will we survive 0bama?

I regret to say that as I see it, ‘all bets are off’.


46 posted on 08/21/2009 10:03:39 AM PDT by mkjessup ("Just Say No" to the illegal 0bamunist Regime of Occupation. The 'Dear Comrade' can Kiss My Ass.)
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To: tanknetter
To say the thing was impressive is an understatement. When the show was over with I looked at my wife and said something about it being the ultimate man-cave ... and she just glared back at me and said “Don’t even THINK about it”.

Your wife needs to be educated on the benefits of such structures.
47 posted on 08/21/2009 10:05:11 AM PDT by mkjessup ("Just Say No" to the illegal 0bamunist Regime of Occupation. The 'Dear Comrade' can Kiss My Ass.)
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To: mkjessup

“Will we survive 0bama?”

IMHO...he will be an American President of great renown....either the last OR the greatest...and for the latter to happen...he’d have to go so hard right he’d make Reagan look like Wallace/McGovern


48 posted on 08/21/2009 10:06:20 AM PDT by mo
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To: mkjessup

When you read the news from India and other Non-American English sources the economic news is dire. If you read the Obama-nation news you get Soviet era sounding propaganda about how good things have turned around in defiance of reality. Scary stuff what is being buried by Obama loving media.


49 posted on 08/21/2009 10:08:54 AM PDT by Nikas777 (En touto nika, "In this, be victorious")
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To: Nikas777; G Larry; mad_as_he$$

The post earlier was part of the welcome wagon. Everyone that is new gets a post like that.

Ask away, it doesn’t bother me one bit.

And Yes, Nikas777, it was a joke, mostly. You are going to need to build up a history and from what I can tell I was only the first response to your post that is part of the challenging process and the welcome wagon.

As far as me being nutty, you sure that is how you want to start here? Very high egos on this board.

As far as revealing anything I am a Mason, Keith 182.

See here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2321284/posts?page=15#15

and Here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2321284/posts?page=37#37

Looking back through your posts you appear to have a strong personality as well. Brusque and a little direct but, I am sure the other posters gave back, as well.

Lighten up a little, It’s a great to be an American and the sun is shining.

Soooh, like I said, Welcome and:

Don’t take life so seriously... You’ll never live through it.


50 posted on 08/21/2009 10:21:42 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Nikas777
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51 posted on 08/21/2009 10:23:51 AM PDT by mkjessup ("Just Say No" to the illegal 0bamunist Regime of Occupation. The 'Dear Comrade' can Kiss My Ass.)
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To: mkjessup
The more I find about the people Hussein Obama has hired as his czars and the authors of bills, the more convinced I am that he is the head Marxist in a nest of filthy commies who believe they are changing the wrold for the better. Socialism for all, enslavement for most, especially anyone trying to run a business ... and yes, running businesses will still be allowed, under very strict federal controls from the federal oligarchy replacing the old Republic being swept away by this crop of elite commies.

If anyone is interested, do a bio search on Jacob Hacker, Van JOnes, John Holdren/Harrison Brown, Earl Devaney, Mark Lloyd, Vivek Kundra, Cass Sunstein, etc.

52 posted on 08/21/2009 10:45:00 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Nikas777

Yes. It’s a combination bomb shelter/root cellar. Presently has the well head and surge tank for the house in it... it’s creepy.


53 posted on 08/21/2009 10:52:37 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Nikas777

Previous owner built ours in either the Carter or Reagan years. We use it as a tornado shelter and for storage. There is some things I would want added or changed if I knew we was going to be using it for a fallout shelter.


54 posted on 08/21/2009 11:15:13 AM PDT by Swiss ("Thus always to tyrants")
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To: Nikas777

Actually it’s just a missile silo, but it usually includes above ground buildings, blast doors, sometimes a runway, etc. The silos are usually flooded due to lack of maintenance, but if you like unusual real estate and feel the baloon is about to go up, you could do worse with $300-700,000


55 posted on 08/21/2009 12:07:49 PM PDT by bt_dooftlook (John Adams: Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate)
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To: MHGinTN
 
So that was weird. 
 
I just decided to copy paste the entire list of names and low and behold I was presented with a list of Czars and Czarinas.
 
As it turns out, I have heard of a few of them: Rattner, Holbrooke, Browner, Mitchell, Feinberg, Ross, Sunstein and Holdren.
 
What the hell is a "Sudan Czar"? and WhyTF do we need one?
 

Do we really need anymore czars in America?

The Obama administration has 25 czars and counting:

1.) Urban Czar: Aldolfo Carrion, Jr.
2.) Bailout Czar: Herb Allison
3.) Border Czar: Alan Bersin
4.) Car Czar: Steven Rattner
5.) Climate Czar: Todd Stern
6.) Terrorism Czar: John Brennan
7.) Drug Czar: Gil Kerlikowske
8.) Af-Pak (Afghanistan-Pakistan) Czar: Richard Holbrooke
9.) Energy Czar: Carol M. Browner
10.) Faith-based Czar: Joshua DuBois
11.) Great Lakes Cleanup Czar: Cameron Davis
12.) Green Jobs Czar: Van Jones
13.) Guantanamo Closure Czar: Daniel Fried
14.) Health Reform Czar: Nancy-Ann DeParle
15.) Health Infotech Czar: David Blumenthal
16.) Middle East Czar: George Mitchell
17.) Non-Proliferation (WMD) Czar: Gary Samore
18.) Pay (Compensation) Czar: Kenneth Feinberg
19.) Persian Gulf & Southwest Asia Czar: Dennis Ross
20.) Regulatory Czar: Cass Sunstein
21.) Science Czar: John Holdren
22.) Stimulus Accountability Czar: Earl Devaney
23.) Sudan Czar: Scott Gration
24.) TARP Czar: Elizabeth Warren
25.) Technology Czar: Vivek Kundra
 
 
 

56 posted on 08/21/2009 12:17:08 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: MHGinTN

Oh and thanks for the list. Now I have something else to do this weekend. Great.


57 posted on 08/21/2009 12:18:05 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Dudoight; Nikas777

Dudoight - you and I grew up in the same part of the country.

Everyone had storm shelters and many people (especially those who were better off financially) had bomb shelters. I remember several that were quite sophisticated and very well equipped. We liked to play pretend games in the bomb shelters. Storm shelters were usually more primative.

Duck and Cover - those were the school drills. Would have been absolutely no help if someone had actually dropped a nuclear bomb, but we did them regularly anyway.

On the other hand tornado drills were useful, as we had to take cover many times due to “twisters”. (Does anyone call them twisters now?)

The most elaborate bomb shelter I remember had a thick metal door that I couldn’t open by myself - it had a mechanism like a submarine door to close and had the same type appearance. It had a bedroom area with bunk type beds. It had a living cooking area with tables, chairs, radios, cooking stoves, etc. There were two rooms further back, one a pantry storage area and one a “utility” area to store waste, etc. It was dug into a hill (or the hill was built for it). You went down to the steps to the door.

The owners kept the food and water stocks current and the beds had clean bedding and pretty quilts. There were books and lamps everywhere.


59 posted on 08/21/2009 12:52:17 PM PDT by Roses0508
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To: Nikas777

“That is amazing to me that it is a 60s house since I assumed this was a 50s only phenomenon.”

Oh, no. I think the real paranoia kicked in during the 1962 Cuban missile crisis. I recall that is when the school drills began in Houston. At first we ducked under the desks. Later we filed into the halls and crouched face-down along the walls and covered the back of our heads with our hands. Nobody seemed scared, we just accepted that as if it were a normal thing. There is a mall in Houston named Meyerland that about that time hosted a trade show of tiny bomb shelters that you could order and have buried in your back yard. There were quite a few models to choose from. I couldn’t understand why my father wouldn’t buy one. I think the fad died out pretty quickly.


60 posted on 08/21/2009 4:27:27 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism = organized crime)
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