A Model for ObamaCare? - A Closer Look at the Oregon Health Plan

http://delta-man.blogspot.com/2009/07/voice-of-experience.html ^ | 7/22/2009 | The Voice of Experience

[Delta Man]

Gimmie Five!!

In his new book, Liberty and Tyranny, the Great One, Mark Levin sites as an example of the heartlessness of government-run health care the plight of Barbara Wagner, a women from Oregon diagnosed with lung cancer (see pages 109-110) who was denied medical coverage for this illness by the state health plan but informed that the state of Oregon would pay for the drugs necessary for her to kill herself. For you conservatives out there who desire a more detailed account of this women’s story, here’s a link to an ABC News story. http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Story?id=5517492&page=1 For you liberals out there I recommend you go to the Daily Kos website to learn what you’re supposed to think.

Before I get to the main point of this post notice how Comrade Susan Donaldson James of ABC News sometimes leaves the impression that Ms. Wagner was covered by private insurance instead of the government plan.

[socialismisinsidious]

"The Oregon Health Plan started out like most liberal ideas, with a worthy goal but with no way to pay for it. Note how over the years, more and more people are added to the program. First only those below the federal poverty level were covered. Then in 1995, the disabled, elderly, and children were added. Drug addicts and mental patients joined in 1997. In 1998 two more groups got on the gravy train. Not only did pregnant women and children with incomes up to 170% of the federal poverty level join but illegal aliens "Citizen/Alien-Waived" who needed emergency medical treatment got coverage."





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[socialismisinsidious]

What people who believe this argument are forgetting is that in a free market, consumers are at liberty to choose the level of care they want.

Exactly...it's very different when the patient, his family and doctor are doing the rationing...when decisions are made by bureaucrats they too have no choice but to ration, (those who say otherwise are disingenuous), but it's rationing without common sense and empathy; the patient becomes a number b/c of the sheer volume of patients and the degrees of separation of a personal nature. The patient is dispensable, a non-entity and therefore easy to foresake.

[Aria]

Oregon is falling apart....23% unemployed + underemployed and now they want to raise taxes. Geniuses. This is a gorgeous state, I love it here but just can’t stay.

The Oregon health plan is a suicide pact from what I can tell.