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To: rolling_stone
So a child of one United States Citizen is a Natural Born Citizen?

Not necessarily.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong on this--please.

I've been following a lot of this on WND.NET and Orly Taitz's website (http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/) and I'm doing a lot of this from memory. I even looked up the requirements on the web from the constitution but can't find the site I saw.

If he wasn't born in Hawaii, then in the 1960's, the U.S. citizen has to have lived in the U.S. for 10 years, 5 of those after the age of 14. His mother wasn't old enough to have lived in the U.S. for 5 years after 14. So if he wasn't born here, he would've taken the father's nationality, I think.

Correct me if I'm wrong on this--I don't want to state anything that's not right.

As for Barry Soetoro, according to what I read, he was an Indonesian citizen and a Muslim in Indonesia. In Indonesia, all other citizenships have to be renounced once you become a citizen. So even if he was a U.S. citizen and what I read is right (that he was an Indonesian citizen), he can't be a U.S. citizen from that alone.

Regardless if my information isn't right, there are so many questions, that if it were me trying to get a driver's license, they'd throw me out--let alone presidency. So why is he president again? And why has he spent so much money hiding all his information?
32 posted on 08/16/2009 6:52:39 PM PDT by USAHOME
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To: USAHOME

That’s WND.COM. Sorry. I keep messing that up.


33 posted on 08/16/2009 6:54:18 PM PDT by USAHOME
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To: USAHOME

,,,,So a child of one United States Citizen is a Natural Born Citizen?,,,,,

I appreciate your input, Rummy Chick and I and others have been discussing what if Obama was illegitimate because his father Obamination Sr. was married in Kenya (tribal marriage or otherwise)before he supposedly married Stanley An in Hawaii..It could be a void marriage due to the fact Obie Sr was not free to marry in Hawaii as that would be polygamy, but he could have married in Kenya and been a legal marriage as polygamy was legal there... You are right about the 5 years after 14 however if the mother was unwed it is only one year residence in US. That pertains to US statutory citizenship which is different than Natural Born Citizen for Constitutional purposes. Welcome to the discussion. here is someone’s thoughts on the matter many other detailed papers have been written detailing court cases, constitutional history legislative history 14th amendment etc..the question IMO needs to be decided by the US Supreme Court. We are getting quite a legal and investigative workout as well as history lessons here!

http://birthers.org/misc/logic.htm


35 posted on 08/16/2009 7:37:23 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: rolling_stone

It doesn’t matter where Obama was born. A “natural born citizen” must be born in the US, and BOTH of his parents must be US citizens. Even if Obama was born in Hawaii, because his father was not a US citizen, he would be a dual citizen of the US and the UK. A natural born citizen, would never find himself subject to multiple nations.


46 posted on 08/16/2009 9:34:07 PM PDT by chatter4
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To: USAHOME
As for Barry Soetoro, according to what I read, he was an Indonesian citizen and a Muslim in Indonesia. In Indonesia, all other citizenships have to be renounced once you become a citizen. So even if he was a U.S. citizen and what I read is right (that he was an Indonesian citizen), he can't be a U.S. citizen from that alone. A parent cannot renounce the US citizenship of a child. And a child cannot renounce their own US citizenship, in most cases. The child would have to convince a US official that the renunciation was not coerced. Once the child turns 18, they can renounce it for themselves, or can commit one of a number of acts which would have the same effect.

That said, it's not just "citizenship" that is required to be eligible to the office of President. It's natural born citizenship. Since the only place in US law that matters is eligibility to the office of President, there is no case law, and no definition in the Constitution. The Courts will need to decide, but Barry can't be too confident of the outcome, otherwise he's throwing a bunch of money he could put to his 2012 campaign right down a legal rat hole, for nothing.

52 posted on 08/16/2009 10:20:19 PM PDT by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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