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To: USAHOME
And would we get Biden (or would he be ineligible, too?) and/or Pelosi (heaven forbid)? Can we opt for Palin and Bachmann instead, as POTUS/VP?

What, no mention of McCain.....oh wait....he's not a natural born citizen either.

100 posted on 08/17/2009 3:53:42 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (RATs...nothing more than Bald Haired Hippies!)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I don’t know what everyone else thinks, but McCain’s not quite conservative enough for me. He DID vote for TARP (stimulus 1—WAY back last year)...and ticked me off, too. And I honestly think he picked on Sarah Palin...just my opinion. I think he’d roll over and do whatever asked for, because he’s a politician. I’d rather see someone with guts go in there, instead of McCain (who IS considered to be a ‘natural born’ citizen according to the constitution. 0Bambi even voted for that.).

But hey...if I ruled the world, it would be a nicer place...OR ELSE. BWAHAHAHAHHAHAH!!!


103 posted on 08/17/2009 4:11:47 PM PDT by USAHOME
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I know...I’m beating a dead horse here. But I don’t want to be beaten up. Here’s why McCain is a natural born citizen (from http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html)—see the third ‘starred’ thing below. I think the fourth starred thing changed at some point, because I think it used to read ‘10 years, 5 years after the age of 14.’ But don’t quote me on that.

“If you’re going to be involved in government in the United States, citizenship is a must. To be a Senator or Representative, you must be a citizen of the United States. To be President, not only must you be a citizen, but you must also be natural-born. Aside from participation in government, citizenship is an honor bestowed upon people by the citizenry of the United States when a non-citizen passes the required tests and submits to an oath.

Natural-born citizen

Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday?

The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.” But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps.

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are “citizens of the United States at birth:”

* Anyone born inside the United States *

* Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person’s status as a citizen of the tribe

* Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.

* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national

* Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year

* Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21

* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)

* A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

* There is an exception in the law — the person must be “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.

Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example.”

All I can say is I’m glad I’m not the one who has to decipher this stuff. My brain’s ready to explode or implode.


104 posted on 08/17/2009 4:24:17 PM PDT by USAHOME
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