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National Review Online Reopens Birth Certificate Debate After Trashing "Birthers" On Tuesday
Advance Indiana ^ | August 2, 2009

Posted on 08/02/2009 6:54:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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It just keeps getting murkier and murkier.
1 posted on 08/02/2009 6:54:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Either way, people. It’s NOT about the ‘birth certificate’. It’s about his lack of ‘truthfulness’ and ‘transparency’. Not only is his eligibility requirement in question.....but the REST of his records. I think this needs to be QUESTIONED MORE!!!!!!

I want to see his COLLEGE RECORDS.


2 posted on 08/02/2009 6:59:06 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Obama. Clear and Pres__ent Danger.)
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Guess National Review Online heard from enough contributors/subscribers to take another look.


3 posted on 08/02/2009 7:02:45 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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Johnson also claims the original birth certificate listed Obama's race as "white."

Ha ha ha ha ha Ha ha ha ha ha. That alone would be enough reason (for the Dems) to keep it hidden. Talk about an Oreo.....

4 posted on 08/02/2009 7:03:09 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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"In theory, that could raise a question about whether he qualifies as a 'natural born' American--an uncharted constitutional concept," he notes.

In theory? There is no "In Theory" about it. Read the friggin' Constitution, that is if you know how to read.

5 posted on 08/02/2009 7:05:57 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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It’s a head fake. The real bottom line issue is that O’s father was not a U. S. citizen, therefore, he cannot be a natural born citizen.


6 posted on 08/02/2009 7:08:04 PM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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It actually very simple. If he doesn’t have anything to hide why doesn’t he release the thing and settle the matter? While he is at it, he might also release his university records. That, of course, is if he has nothing to hide.


7 posted on 08/02/2009 7:08:26 PM PDT by Malesherbes (Sauve Qui Peut)
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I don’t know about you Vet, but I am having fun.


8 posted on 08/02/2009 7:08:29 PM PDT by Ronin (It will be helpful if Geithner can show us some arithmetic.)
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Well, what do you expect from trust fund, frat house Romney supporters, sharp thinking?

They don’t like birthers for the same reason they don’t like Palin. They are elitist snobs and feel threatened that the unwashed are out and about on their own and less and less listening to the country club mafia.


9 posted on 08/02/2009 7:10:19 PM PDT by Leisler
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Not a good day to quit the anti birthers
10 posted on 08/02/2009 7:14:23 PM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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There may be perfectly benign answers to all of this. But the real question is: Why don’t the media — the watchdog legions who trekked to Sarah Palin’s Alaska hometown to scour for every kernel of gossip, and who were so desperate for Bush dirt that they ran with palpably forged military records — want to dig into Obama’s background?
In-freaking-deed.

It just keeps getting murkier and murkier.

But the logic of those digging gets clearer and clearer.

11 posted on 08/02/2009 7:15:34 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (The revolution IS being televised.)
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Was Obama adopted by Indonesian citizen Lolo Soetoro?

This could be the reason 0bama doesn’t want the long form birth certificate released. If he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro and given the legal name Barry Soetoro, he would have had to LEGALLY change it to Barack Obama in order to place that name on a ballot.

If he placed the name Barack Obama on a ballot while still legally known as Barry Soetoro it would disqualify him. It might even be a felony.


12 posted on 08/02/2009 7:17:29 PM PDT by Wardenclyffe
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In theory? There is no "In Theory" about it. Read the friggin' Constitution, that is if you know how to read.

I have to laugh at all these labels like conspiracy 'theory'...and the words in 'theory'.

IT'S A FACT that hussein has not released his longform Birth Certificate and MOST of his RECORDS. The dimbulb smear merchants in the State run media don't give a damn.
13 posted on 08/02/2009 7:18:33 PM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Yonder stands your orphan with his gun)
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Well, kinda sorta in theory. While the Constitution calls out natural born, there’s no real definition in law. Current U.S. law confers “citizen at birth” status to many categories of people, including Obama. Some say that is the same as “natural born”; others say it isn’t. What is needed is a clear-cut SCOTUS ruling that everyone can understand and apply.


14 posted on 08/02/2009 7:20:17 PM PDT by Hootowl
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When the outside observer considers the reasons why BHO won’t release his original long form birth certificate, they always suggest that there might be an embarrassing reason (he’s white, he’s Soetoro, etc.) that’s irrelevant to the issue of his eligibility. And, in isolation, that might explain his unwillingness to reveal the document.

However, combined with the secrecy of his personal records, dating all the way back to his Kindergarten records (which are mysteriously missing) through to his attorney client records, it stinks something awful. No one needs to be that secretive about their past, UNLESS they are hiding something. And that is the true issue here. Why is he hiding EVERYTHING?


15 posted on 08/02/2009 7:20:43 PM PDT by erkyl (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office --Aesop (~550 BC))
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Notice how the news libs are getting so defensive (lol)!


16 posted on 08/02/2009 7:29:22 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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“FREE THE LONG FORM!”


17 posted on 08/02/2009 7:32:16 PM PDT by Dryman (Now, Back to Lurking)
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Some say that is the same as “natural born”; others say it isn’t. What is needed is a clear-cut SCOTUS ruling that everyone can understand and apply. Hoot, I demand that you stop using common sense when posting to a "birther" thread. The only way to get SCOTUS involved is to get a good case before it, otherwise, they have no "standing." The court cannot rule otherwise.

The way to get a good case is for a state, any state, to pass a law demanding proof of eligibility before a Presidential wannabe gets on the state ballot, or gets the state's Electoral College votes.

18 posted on 08/02/2009 7:34:43 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Congratulations Obama Voters! You are not prejudiced. Unpatriotic, maybe. Dumb definitely.)
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Does the long form list religion? I wonder if he is a Muslim!
19 posted on 08/02/2009 7:36:23 PM PDT by hornetguy
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To: erkyl

I have long felt that he could be hiding something related not to eligibility but electability. For ex, let’s say the complete birth records show he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro (which seems more likely than not). It’s my understanding this would mean that he had and may still hold Indonesian citizenship.

I am skeptical than anyone could be elected president of the U.S. if voters knew that he held or still holds citizenship in the largest Muslim country in the world. Thus, it seems perfectly plausible to me that he was born in HI but is hiding something that he felt would hurt his standing as a politician.


20 posted on 08/02/2009 7:37:15 PM PDT by freespirited (The Surgeon General has determined that Harry and Louise are dangerous to your health.)
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