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Barack Obama: Will the Controversy Over the Birthplace of the U.S. President End?
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| July 31, 2009
| Elvira Nieto
Posted on 08/01/2009 10:21:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Do they all write these off of one template? David Axelrod needs to farm out different scripts so that his Astroturfing isn't so obvious.
To: 2ndDivisionVet
When one endures all lots of grief for not taking a simple action, one can only conclude that taking that action would result in more substantial grief.
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posted on
08/01/2009 10:25:39 PM PDT
by
Mad_Tom_Rackham
(It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government -- Thomas Payne)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
It will end when he proves he was born in Hawaii.
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posted on
08/01/2009 10:28:04 PM PDT
by
Safrguns
To: 2ndDivisionVet
I wish someone would explain to these folks, and to many ill informed on Free Republic, exactly what the writers of the constitution meant by “natural born.” Also, to explain that the 14th Ammendment does not change the requirement. If anything it makes it clearer, when reading the writing of the person who authored the ammendment, that a “natural born” citizen must have both parents as citizens first. One parent won’t cut it.
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posted on
08/01/2009 10:28:15 PM PDT
by
Sola Veritas
(Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
The line here is pretty much the same as elsewhere ~ the writer tosses up an item, argues from that, and seemingly ignores the "rest of the story".
I think it's that kid who does the "straw man" arguments for Obama's speeches.
He must have been great answering "similar to"s on his SAT exam.
Watch carefully ~ none of the MSM types in this ever question the Great Aunt's statement that she "was there when he was born".
They have to start dealing with that one, and I don't mean by saying the old moonbat was just crazy or feeble.
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posted on
08/01/2009 10:28:29 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: 2ndDivisionVet
It will end when he releases the certificate. And fairly quickly, I might add. All he needs to do is what anyone who wants a government job has to do. Why is that so hard for the SRM to figure out?
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posted on
08/01/2009 10:29:08 PM PDT
by
Colonel_Flagg
(You're either in or in the way.)
To: Sola Veritas
The 14th can, in fact, be read to rescind citizenship granted in error by an INS or ICE administrator.
Probably upwards of 30 million people would no longer qualify with a strict reading and a decision that "administrative error" can be corrected irrespective of the "ex post facto" clause.
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posted on
08/01/2009 10:30:49 PM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: 2ndDivisionVet
The fact is, the State Department demands a certified birth certificate in order to issue a passport. Obama has had a passport since childhood...
He has a passport, therefore he has a birth certificate? OK...and the birthers would all say, "show it to us," am I right?
In a just released survey conducted by Daily Kos Research 2000, 77% of the country believes Obama was born in the United States; 11% believe he was not, and 12% werent sure. Broken down by regions, 93% of those in the Northeast; 90% of those in the Midwest; and 89% of those in the West believe Obama to be a U.S. citizen. The glaring difference comes in those surveyed in the South of whom only 47% believe Obama is an American - 53% believe that either he is not an American or are unsure of his citizenship.
And we all know the south is...the
bible belt, right, and therefore, well, you know how
they are. And what is this, do we decide things like this by survey now?
*tih is agnostic on the BC issue, but not on the SRM.
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posted on
08/01/2009 10:31:15 PM PDT
by
the invisib1e hand
(The revolution IS being televised.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
even though since August 21, 1959, any persons born in Hawaii would be recognized as being a naturally born citizen as per article II and the 14th amendment of the Constitution. Major research isnt needed to prove this point. Just a little reading. Yet, the controversy continues.
Being well versed in both Article II of the Constitution and the 14th Amendment, this statement sticks in my gullet. Having done much more than "just a little reading" I am drawn to the completely opposite conclusion. I miss the days of "investigative reporting". I'm tired of people trying to tell me what to believe without supplying a context and rationale. I think a lot of people are ... so the questions continue and grow even while the other team tries to suppress and belittle them.
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posted on
08/01/2009 10:32:26 PM PDT
by
so_real
( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
To: 2ndDivisionVet
“When asked whether or not he believed that Barack Obama was an American citizen,”
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That’s not actually the issue. By this measure - CA Governor Arnold would be qualified to run for president.
He’s not. Because “American citizen” is not the requirement.
It also, rather completely demolishes the author’s credibility to even write about the issue.
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posted on
08/01/2009 10:35:57 PM PDT
by
Cringing Negativism Network
(Governor Palin is to Comrade Zero, as Ronald Reagan was to Jimmy Carter.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
A lie like this is more evidence that 2008-2009 is the final transformation of the media into the propaganda arm of the federal oligarchy. When the media/Press will tell blatant lies all throughout the media no doubt funneled to them from Axelgreasy, we know it is in your face, Amerika, we will tell you what is the truth regardless of veracity. This nation is in deep deep doodoo. It may be that only by exposing and shaming these bastards can this nation be restored. Right now we are a ruled people under the thumb of a federal oligarchy run by untouchable czars appointed by a community organizer sweeping away the old Constitutional Republic, to establish a federal oligarchy that controls absolutely every aspect of your individual lie through federal bureaucrats.
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posted on
08/01/2009 10:37:57 PM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here’s my theory of what zer0bama’s strategy is going to be:
He will say tha t he is qualified to hold office because the SCOTUS swore him into office and it was their duty to investigate if there were any questions towards the 3 or 4 simple elements of eligibility. They had a perfectly valid lawsuit, Berg v Obama, right in front of them and they could have easily hung their hats on that if they so chose. But they didn’t, and that makes him de facto qualified.
It’s a great legal strategy and it will fly well with the press. But it’s the end of the story for this pursuit, unfortunately for us birthers.
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posted on
08/01/2009 10:39:53 PM PDT
by
Kevmo
(So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
To: Colonel_Flagg
It'll end for me when Obozo's long form BC is released, along with his transcripts from college, his grades, his masters thesis (if he wrote one....ha!), and all the stuff that is continually stonewalled.
If those ba$tards in our gvt. can access any of MY stuff, then the prez, or any of the stooges in Congress, should be treated the same way. Show me the documents!
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posted on
08/01/2009 10:40:59 PM PDT
by
Othniel
(Meddling in world affairs for 1/20 of a millenium......)
To: Kevmo
Only if you and others, give up.
Never. Ever give up.
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posted on
08/01/2009 10:41:33 PM PDT
by
Cringing Negativism Network
(Governor Palin is to Comrade Zero, as Ronald Reagan was to Jimmy Carter.)
To: Safrguns
I think he may indeed been hatched in HI, but something on there he doesn’t want us to see.
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posted on
08/01/2009 10:41:50 PM PDT
by
mel
To: Kevmo
If that One says he intentionaly broke the law and fooled the dumbass electorate, he would be arrested.
To: 2ndDivisionVet
If he’s paying his lawyers out of his own pocket, I say let it go on!
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posted on
08/01/2009 10:43:22 PM PDT
by
airborne
(Congratulations to the Stanley Cup Champions! PITTSBURGH PENGUINS RULE!!!)
To: eyedigress
He doesn’t even have to say it was intentional. He could just say that he thought the CoLB that was posted on DailyKos was his birth cert and didn’t give it a second thought. It was “inadvertent”. Yeah, right. But he’ll get away with it.
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posted on
08/01/2009 10:44:31 PM PDT
by
Kevmo
(So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
To: MHGinTN
When the media/Press will tell blatant lies all throughout the media no doubt funneled to them from Axelgreasy, we know it is in your face, Amerika, we will tell you what is the truth regardless of veracity. We have always been at war with Oceania. (From the ministry of truth) 1984
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posted on
08/01/2009 10:46:12 PM PDT
by
cpdiii
(roughneck, oilfield trash and proud of it, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, iconoclast.)
To: Kevmo
Didn’t he already state in the book he allegedly wrote - a moving tale about remembering seeing his birth certificate folded into a book?
Lies, on top of lies.
No wonder he relies on teleprompters.
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posted on
08/01/2009 10:46:24 PM PDT
by
Cringing Negativism Network
(Governor Palin is to Comrade Zero, as Ronald Reagan was to Jimmy Carter.)
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