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To: conservativegramma
Just because someone came up with a neat-looking chart doesn't mean it's correct.

In any of my readings I've never read anything that said the parents of the President had to be citizens too. Never. Until a certain man was running for President. There are lots of old law books out there, some of them you can download from Google, law books from before the 1920’s. I've not found one to support the “parents must be citizens” concept. It's not in the Constitution, it's not in the Federalist Papers. Maybe there's some old law book that has this doctrine in it. If someone found it I could stop believing that this doctrine is an Internet hoax, the result of the desire to exclude a certain person from the Presidency on the part of many well-meaning but wrong fellow citizens.

I wish this doctrine were true and we could get rid of a certain individual as President. I also wish that I had a billion dollars and my own mansion on my own private island in the Caribbean.

100 posted on 08/01/2009 6:08:00 PM PDT by Cheburashka (Stephen Decatur: you want barrels of gunpowder as tribute, you must expect cannonballs with it.)
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To: conservativegramma

You just got the equivalent of ‘Nanananana, I can’t hear you, I’ve got my fingers in my ears.’


102 posted on 08/01/2009 6:19:20 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Cheburashka

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEnaAZrYqQI&feature=related


103 posted on 08/01/2009 6:36:48 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: Cheburashka
Why did Chester Arthur hide the fact that his father did not naturalize as a US Citizen until after Arthur was born? Because he knew he wasn't eligible via one parent.
105 posted on 08/01/2009 7:23:42 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: Cheburashka
In any of my readings I've never read anything that said the parents of the President had to be citizens too.

Strange. I've read a lot and that's exactly what I've seen. Here's one: "....‘those children born in the country, of parents who are citizens.’.. (Source: The Law of Nations by Emerich De Vattel, Book 1, c. 19, sec. 212 (c. 1758).

Here's some more (SCOTUS cases which cited the above source by Vattel):

Shanks v. Dupont, 28 U.S. 242, 245 (1830) – same definition as Vattel.
Ex parte Reynolds, 1879, 5 Dill., 394, 402 – same definition as Vattel and actually cites Vattel in this case.
United States v. Ward, 42 F.320 (C.C.S.D.Cal. 1890) – same definition as Vattel and actually cites Vattel in this case.

More recently: Senate Resolution 511 which states the following conclusion regarding John McCain qualifying as a 'natural born' citizen: "Whereas John Sidney McCain, III, was born to American citizens on an American military base in the Panama Canal Zone in 1936: Now, therefore, be it resolved, That John Sidney McCain, III, is a `natural born Citizen' under Article II, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States."

And Obama signed it! Notice the plural regarding parents and the notation military base (U.S. soil). Vattel's definition STILL has not changed.

It's not in the Constitution, it's not in the Federalist Papers.

It is in the constitution, 'natural born' was a common definition understood by all at that time exactly as laid down by Emerich de Vattel and Blackstone and that definition as not changed in the last 220 years per Senate Resolution 511 last year.

As per the Federalist papers I've read them too, and yeah its in there. Try the Federalist blog

106 posted on 08/01/2009 7:39:04 PM PDT by conservativegramma (Palin has my vote: whoever the media hates I love)
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