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1 posted on 07/31/2009 3:21:05 AM PDT by Seth_Stuck
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...is Far More Complex Than the Media Pretend

..you can't hide an elephant behind a Popsicle stick

2 posted on 07/31/2009 3:25:43 AM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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This “kookery” charge is the “debate on global warming is over” tactic one more time...


3 posted on 07/31/2009 4:27:39 AM PDT by LRS (Just contracts; just laws; just a constitution...)
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Our state run media once again missing the mark, and the truth.


5 posted on 07/31/2009 4:55:00 AM PDT by wbones8765 ("Give me liberty or give me death")
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Far More Complex

Either he has a BC or he doesn't. If he did have one, he would have produced it and laid this controversy to rest.

6 posted on 07/31/2009 4:58:18 AM PDT by Spirochete (Texas is an anagram for Taxes)
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One only has to read ANdy McCarthy’s article in National Review yesterday to get what the huge problem with Obama is ........Multiple Citizenships and a FAKE BIO and NO info on his scholastics....all sealed!!


9 posted on 07/31/2009 5:16:06 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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“birthers” as fringe, lunatic,boy the presstitutes eyes must be bleeding because someone questions Omama.


10 posted on 07/31/2009 5:26:54 AM PDT by Vaduz
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The “Birthers” should actually be called ‘Barry’s Biography Brigade’. Why? because the state-run media, the RNC, the DNC, and popular Presidential biographers (like maybe Doris Kearns-Goodwin or Douglas Brinkley) lacked the intellectual curiosity to investigate or vet the obscured life of The One. Burf records are only one concern. Most of the obfuscation is NOT complex - simple slight of hand. The BBB’s are smart - they can multitask and go after ALL aspects of the New Poseur (Swiftboaters turned Burfboaters?).


12 posted on 07/31/2009 5:45:36 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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Congress or the Supreme Court could easily make such a ruling so as to define "natural-born" status as conferred simply by being born on US soil, but doing so would not retroactively make Obama a natural-born citizen.

Why not? Sez who? The constitutional prohibition against ex post facto laws is generally assumed to be limited to criminal laws or, if intruding into the civil sphere, withdrawing a right which exists. To expand the definition of natural born citizen would not be violative of those principles. The Democrats have the power to Congress to carry it off. Who would have standing to object?

Even worse, Congress could declare that anyone born abroad of one American parent is a natural born citizen retroactively to 1960. If it did so, it is very unlikely anyone could get to the Supreme Court on the issue and if they did it is probable that the Supreme Court would hold that it is the exclusive power of the Congress to define natural born citizenship it if he chooses to do so, or, whenever Congress defines natural born citizenship, that definition is not reviewable by the court unless it conflicts with some other constitutional provision. Ex post facto, as traditionally defined, would not apply.

This assumes that a litigant is 1) held to have standing, 2) that he is presenting a justiciable and not a political question.


13 posted on 07/31/2009 6:25:32 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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