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To: IrishCatholic

I don’t have to justify my character to you or anyone else. A bunch of conservative commentators, the republican governor of Hawaii, the senior health officials, and congress says he was born in Hawaii. That’s good enough for me. Obama is perfectly within his rights to refuse to show us the birth certificate, and I don’t have to see it to believe he’s a citizen any more than I have to see the wreckage of the planes to believe Al Qaeda brought down the WTC. Experts have offered their opinions and backed them up, and sometimes you HAVE to take their word for it.

Obama’s not going to show us the birth certificate, or if he is, he’s going to show it to us when it will do maximum damage to our side. Throwing tantrums and conspiracy mongering won’t change that one whit. I’ll say it as often as I have to: What you’re doing is only making Obama and his cronies look good and the rest of us look bad—with YOU doing all the heavy lifting.

Oh, and by the way, republicans lost in 2008 for two reasons: We stupidly failed to put forth a candidate who could unify conservatives under one banner, and the democrats did just that after learning from their mistakes over eight years and two elections. OK? No conspiracy. They beat us fair and square, and rather than act like 9/11 goofers, we would be well advised to start asking ourselves how we were beaten by this clown to begin with.

Or you could just keep doing what you’re doing. The civilian birthers can steal the mike away from those with legitimate complaints, and the military birthers can just go on fomenting mutiny. THAT’LL look good in 2012.


29 posted on 07/30/2009 6:02:33 PM PDT by Hells Wookies (Just another day in scenic Uncanny Valley)
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To: Hells Wookies
Well, in your first paragraph you start by saying whatever other people think you are willing to follow. You don't need to think for yourself.

You then follow it up by saying Obama doesn't have to prove his eligibility when John McCain sure did when he was born in Panama. He produced the long form. So the Constitution really doesn't mean anything to you nor the requirements for president.

You then top it off with the straw man argument about 9/11 as if there is any remote comparison. There isn't. No one but you would make it.

No expert has come forward and stated what is on the long form certificate. To say otherwise is a lie. They haven't. No one has come forward and stated what hospital and what doctor attended. To say otherwise is a lie. So, whose word, what expert, would you possible refer to without lying?

Pelosi certified him eligible. If it turns out he is not the DNC is destroyed as a political party. The Dems are destroyed. If, as you so desperately fear, they do produce a birth certificate that shows he was born here, so what? He only did what McCain did and he should have done. It isn't the birthers that lost the election. It won't be the birthers that lose the next one. It will be people with weak characters that won't stand up and ask questions. It will be people with no spine. It will be people that want to just get along and compromise any principles they might have just for a spot at the trough.

You also miss the point that the Dems beat us fair and square because many conservative stayed home. It was the Democrat John McCain against the Marxist/Socialist Obama.
Birthers are simply people asking a simple question that one side doesn't want to answer and some on the other side are two cowardly to ask.

Either you are worth your salt or you are not. Fish or cut bait. Stand or squat. Pick your analogy but you are known by your actions and ideals.

30 posted on 07/30/2009 6:23:50 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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