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To: CharlesWayneCT
"And it appears that you understand that as a citizen, if she gave birth to a child within the country, that child is a natural-born citizen." You are a practiced deceiver. I understand the issue of natural born citizenship and understand that you want it to include anyone including anchor babies born in the U.S. I also am absolutely certain that a person can be born in Canada and obtain a valid Hawaiian birth certificate which presents only that the person is an American citizen via Hawaiian validation. I also understand that you just tried once again to assume as axiomatic that which you wish to prove to be an axiom -- that is purposed deceit in the form of circular reasoning which you thought you would get away with.

You have yet to cite a single SCOTUS case which defines natural born citizen as it applies to prwsident eligibility as required by the meaning of the term in the Constitution. Your haughty condescension is telling.

Now I suppose you're going to try and take as axiomatic that the Wong Kim Ark case is the proof of your faulty reasoning, ignoring Perkins v Elg and other cases where the terminology is buffeted about. You're a deceiver. The fraud and deception and outright lying of Barack Obama as a tyypical democrat is the issue. You will try to squelch the realities and steer this thread into the areas of fog you have devised, but I for one will now ignore your posts hereafter because you are an outed deceiver.

80 posted on 07/29/2009 11:21:03 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
I understand the issue of natural born citizenship and understand that you want it to include anyone including anchor babies born in the U.S.

You are still confusing me. Obama does not fall under the "anchor baby" argument, because his mother was a U.S. citizen.

I didn't see anything in your response which indicated whether you are arguing that a child born in the U.S. to a U.S. teenager would NOT BE A NATURAL-BORN citizen if his father was not a citizen.

My assertion is that a child born in the United States to a teen mother who is a U.S. citizen would be a natural-born citizen. Do you disagree with that?

If you disagree with that, are you saying that if a US teen who sleeps with a foreign exchange student and has a baby, that child isn't a citizen?

104 posted on 07/29/2009 11:52:43 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: MHGinTN
You have yet to cite a single SCOTUS case which defines natural born citizen as it applies to prwsident eligibility as required by the meaning of the term in the Constitution. Your haughty condescension is telling

So far as I know, there are no Supreme Court cases involving citizenship eligibility for President. It only came up once before, and I don't think it ever made it to the court.

105 posted on 07/29/2009 11:53:51 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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