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To: CharlesWayneCT

Now I’m no longer having any doubts about you. You know what fraud has been posted on the Internet to claim a ‘valid CoLB’, you’ve read Poalrik’s material because you’ve posted on the discussion threads of same. You’ve been reading all the psots on birther threads, and now you want to ignore the fraud and forgeries and claim we are obliged to believe the thing shown on the Internte is valid. ... But this issue is serving to out many stealthy decievers always ready to be apologists for liars and thieves, for that we thank you.


60 posted on 07/29/2009 10:59:35 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN
and now you want to ignore the fraud and forgeries and claim we are obliged to believe the thing shown on the Internte is valid

IT doesn't really bother me how many times you "lose faith" in me.

But I did not say what you just summarized me as saying. I said that, given the events of the past week, there doesn't appear to be any doubt that the state of HI has issued an official COLB for Barack Obama.

Note that doesn't mean that the one circulated last year was a valid copy of a COLB; I'll never know whether that is the case or not. But whether or not the COLB from last year was valid or not doesn't seem to be the issue at this point, as there does seem to be an official COLB issued by HI for Obama.

The question is whether that official COLB is based on an official and valid record which truthfully indicates he was born in Hawaii. Not whether someone forged a COLB for Obama.

Note I am focusing on the question of whether Obama is "natural-born", not on whether he lies, or whether he would deceive us or put out a fake document.

75 posted on 07/29/2009 11:15:58 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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