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Some "straight talk" about Sarah Palin
Powerline ^ | 7/5/2009 | Paul Mirengoff

Posted on 07/05/2009 7:06:32 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Find me a potential Republican candidate who will openly talk about limited government, traditional values, strong defense in unapologetic terms and I will unite behind that candidate as well

Apparently you didn't see the need to add that fourth "E" to your screen name, nor do you apply it to your candidates: "Effective."

Ron Paul has been utterly ineffective in Congress for what ... over 20 years? Makes you wonder about the sanity of the folks who keep voting him into office.

Sarah Palin has only marginally more experience than Barak Obama; her resume to date does not qualify her for national office right now.

Beyond that -- fair or not -- the media has stripped her of any effectiveness she might want to exercise on the national stage. In fact, by her own account they stripped her of the effectiveness needed to govern a low-population state!

Any chance she had to gain the needed experience, and to counter the media spin with governmental accomplishments, disappeared when she resigned.

201 posted on 07/06/2009 11:26:25 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I’m not questioning her principles or her message. I just don’t believe those things are enough. Executive experience matters because it a demonstrates to us how the candidate in question will respond to real-life scenarios. (That’s right, Barack Obama doesn’t have any of that either... and NEVER should have been elected.) As much as I truly love Sarah’s principles and message, how can I take her seriously as a presidential candidate? She’s been elected to statewide office exactly once, which would be kind of okay - except that now she’s not even going to finish her term!

As for an alternative candidate, unfortunately the field is pretty vacant right now. If I had to choose a candidate to support, I’d go with Jindal, although he too needs more experience.


202 posted on 07/06/2009 11:35:30 AM PDT by FelixFelicis (When can we *change* back? [Get yer bumper sticker at www.cafepress.com/deepright!])
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To: upsdriver
Your words need repetition:
I don’t know who Paul Mirengoff is but what an ass. He has to return to Washington DC to find normal? One of the reasons I like Sarah Palin is because I detest people like him.

203 posted on 07/06/2009 11:47:52 AM PDT by bvw
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To: kcvl

He looks like another DC person — Al Franken.


204 posted on 07/06/2009 11:48:33 AM PDT by bvw
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To: FelixFelicis

Having read you comments on this thread, may it be noted that a lightening bug has more intellectual firepower than your comments suggest of yourself. May I also publicly wonder how much you are paid to make these kind of propaganda postings?

Your posts play just like any number of seminar callers on talk radio shows — “I, Mr. Conservative, liked her but ....”

If you are not paid, well ... that’s even sadder.


205 posted on 07/06/2009 11:55:12 AM PDT by bvw
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To: FelixFelicis

Can’t stop yapping?


206 posted on 07/06/2009 11:56:21 AM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

Not paid, although I’m not above accepting contributions. And I assure you, I’m for real. If you check my previous FR posts, you’ll see that I designed a Palin graphic that was used on signs at McCain/Palin rallies all over the country. I don’t know what more I can do to prove that I truly admire this woman’s character and principles - and once supported her candidacy. But at this point she has made it impossible for me to take her seriously as a presidential candidate.

I will add that a lot can happen between now and 2012 - and beyond. I hope Sarah goes out and proves me wrong.


207 posted on 07/06/2009 12:16:58 PM PDT by FelixFelicis (When can we *change* back? [Get yer bumper sticker at www.cafepress.com/deepright!])
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To: FelixFelicis

I don’t think she will disappoint you. She had more gumption than all the other Rep. candidates together last cycle. She was taking the game to Obama and McCain and company would tone it down. She now can go with her gut all the way.
At the very least she will help conservatives get into the House and Senate.


208 posted on 07/06/2009 12:23:42 PM PDT by 4Godsoloved..Hegave (Never explain yourself, Your friends don't need it and your enemies won't believe it.)
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To: RasterMaster

If they are unnamed then how do you know who they are? I seriously doubt that Romney’s people are too worried about a half term governor from Alaska.

You Palin people need to take off the tin hats, extricate yourself from this cult of personality you have fallen into and realize that you are the only ones who are this invested in Sarah Palin. I doubt Sarah and Todd are full of this much angst over her future. My guess is many of you are the same ones who tried to convince us that Duncan Hunter was the second coming of RR. How did that work out for you?

Sarah will only make it if she convinces enough people she is the best for the job. If she can’t do that, and quitting your real job halfway through the contract term is not going to be helpful with people who are not devoted to her, she will fail. Whichever happens neither Mitt Romney, John McCain, the Bildenbergers nor the Illuminati will have much to do with it. As Harry Truman used to say the buck stops here, in this case it stops at Sarah’s feet nowhere else. He also was fond of saying if you can’t stand the heat get out of the kitchen, maybe that is what Sarah did we will see.


209 posted on 07/06/2009 1:17:54 PM PDT by redangus
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To: SeekAndFind
Geez, these people are more obsessed with the question "WHY DID YOU RESIGN" than Number Two ever was.


210 posted on 07/06/2009 1:26:19 PM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: redangus

Better put on your asbestos undies; they’ll be after you with the pitchforks and torches....


211 posted on 07/06/2009 1:33:04 PM PDT by steve-b (Intelligent design is to evolutionary biology what socialism is to free-market economics.)
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To: redangus

Both RINO Romney’s campaign and McLame’s un-named sources have made statements to reporters but were always too cowardly to go “on the record” with their names. For someone being “not too worried” Romney RINOs on this forum prove otherwise.


212 posted on 07/06/2009 1:36:38 PM PDT by RasterMaster (DUmocrats - the party of slavery, sedition, subversion, socialism & surrender)
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To: upsdriver

Dartmouth, Stanford Labor lawyer who thinks he’s somebody.


213 posted on 07/06/2009 1:42:10 PM PDT by wordsofearnest (Job 19:25 As for me, I know my Redeemer lives.)
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To: SeekAndFind

You just post this to see what kind of reaction it would get? You going to tell us what RINO you support?


214 posted on 07/06/2009 2:43:10 PM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (The Tree of Liberty is long overdue for its natural manure)
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To: FelixFelicis

Palin’s decision makes perfect sense politically and morally, and has a far better basis in a high sense of the needs of public duty than you are currently grasping.

The clown, Bill Clinton, put this country through hell by his defense of the indefensible, continuing to hold office even when precedent, honor, and a respect for the public trust meant he should have resigned.

The standard of the Founders generation was that honorable men would resign rather than burden the public with private complexities and battles. The attacks against Sarah were against her personally, and not upon her in her role as Governor. It is with great honor SHE was able to make the distinction and realize that her duty to the citizens of Alaska meant she had to withdraw. That places her in a truly elite cadre of American Presidents as honor goes — very much in mold of George Washington who refused to be King.

Yet what standard do you and too many of this generation want to hold her to? To the standard of a Bill Clinton! A cad! You confuse executive energy with animal energy — you confuse an erection with strong executive direction.

Grow up.


215 posted on 07/06/2009 3:58:10 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw

Good grief, what next? If I’m not working for some liberal conspiracy group, I must be somehow fixated on Bill Clinton’s... uh... member. As one of my favorite movie characters once said, “Truly, you have a dizzying intellect.”


216 posted on 07/06/2009 5:38:15 PM PDT by FelixFelicis (When can we *change* back? [Get yer bumper sticker at www.cafepress.com/deepright!])
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To: FelixFelicis

A significant percentage of humans act like animals in politics, they confuse animalistic male sex drive with executive energy. Vix JFK, viz Clinton, viz so many paeans by female reporters to Obama’s physique.

It is an constant, found throughout history. The “Droit du Signeur.” And further back.

Many of Clinton’s defenders found his sex drive just an aspect of his executive energy, and since it was so rampant, they felt he was a magnificent leader.

He was a pig. But a pig with many enthralled with him.

So why are too many vocal “conservatives” de-thralled with Sarah? I figure it is mainly those who express the same of similar logic. In you case your are dispirited and more than willing to share that downer-ism with us — why? Because she withdrew before climax, speaking metaphorically. But what climax was there to be had? Her reasons for leaving she stated were clear.

IMO, it was because she understands true executive duty in a position of public trust better than you. Here calling is higher. It is like Washington’s. Perhaps. We will see.

Washington also knew when and how to withdraw. That is how he won the Battle of Princeton.


217 posted on 07/06/2009 6:53:17 PM PDT by bvw
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To: r9etb
Apparently you didn't see the need to add that fourth "E" to your screen name, nor do you apply it to your candidates: "Effective."

Well, at least my screenname isn't as incoherent as yours.

Ron Paul has been utterly ineffective in Congress for what ... over 20 years? Makes you wonder about the sanity of the folks who keep voting him into office.

Ron Paul has restored the fiscal conservative/libertarian wing back into the GOP. All those Tea Parties? You can thank his supporters, who held the (first post-modern) tea party back in December 2007. And his "Audit the Fed" legislation has brought in many co-sponsors.

Sarah Palin has only marginally more experience than Barak Obama; her resume to date does not qualify her for national office right now.

She has intangibles that far outweight length of time spent in office and she is FAR MORE experienced than Obama. This woman has been a city councilwoman, a two-term Mayor, head of a state commission, 2.5 years as Governor, and was chosen to be a VP candidate. Again, WAY more experience than Bozo.

Beyond that -- fair or not -- the media has stripped her of any effectiveness she might want to exercise on the national stage. In fact, by her own account they stripped her of the effectiveness needed to govern a low-population state!

You forget she has huge grassroots support and doesn't need the media. The media (and Obama operatives) may have forced her hand, but she's rising to the challenge. Whether or not she runs for President is irrelevant.

Any chance she had to gain the needed experience, and to counter the media spin with governmental accomplishments, disappeared when she resigned

Buddy, the experience factor is thrown out the window thanks to Obama. She has experience, and most of all, leadership.

218 posted on 07/06/2009 8:11:36 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist ("President Obama, your agenda is not new, it's not change, and it's not hope" - Rush Limbaugh 02/28)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

You’re delusional.


219 posted on 07/06/2009 9:09:54 PM PDT by r9etb
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