Posted on 06/28/2009 6:52:43 AM PDT by Shout Bits
Now that The House has passed the single worst piece of legislation in US history, the Cap-and-Trade Bill, a showdown in the Senate has been set. If freedom prevails and The Senate fails to pass this bill, the US will see the high water mark of Pres. Obama's honeymoon power. Like Pres. Clinton before him, Obama has overreached and the backlash could be substantial.
While Obama is popular, the polls show some dark clouds on the horizon. Obama is a highly divisive figure for a newly minted President, more divisive than was Pres. Bush following his controversial election in 2000. Also, Obama's policies are not popular union card check, auto bailouts, single payer health care, and, currently, Cap-and-Trade. Because of his charm, people simply want to like Obama, so he is not equated with his socialist policies. Obama has cultivated this advantage by taking a hands-off approach to such things as the impossibly wasteful stimulus bill. Eventually, however, all Presidents become the sum of their policies, and their popularity falls in line.
Obama stepped off his triangulation cloud to lobby for the Cap-and-Trade bill, which may be his undoing. CNN, along with most major papers, described the House passage as a "triumph" for Obama. Obama lobbied hard to bring wavering Democrats in line for this bill. Even though Speaker Pelosi pulled out all the procedural stops (the ones she chastised the GOP for using), the bill would not have passed without Obama's explicit backing. While the botched stimulus act belonged to Democrats in general, the Cap-and-Trade bill belongs to Obama, his first controversial bill.
Controversial indeed. While the CBO estimates that the typical family will suffer only a $175 annual increase in energy costs due to the bill, that figure is the tip of the global-warming iceberg. As this blog has pointed out previously, everything everyone consumes contains a large component of energy expense. Every human activity consumes energy, and those energy costs find their way into the costs of every product and service. Worse still, even though the US is the most energy efficient country in the world, economic expansion remains in proportion to increases in energy consumption. The history of modern prosperity is the history of exploiting low cost energy to allow production. The Cap-and-Trade bill would essentially cap energy consumption, and thereby eliminate economic growth and job creation. As a special treat, the bill would create a trade war with China by slapping tariffs on goods from countries without Cap-and-Trade.
So, Obama has tied his wagon to a bill that would eliminate economic growth, create a trade war (and hence a new great depression),and drive up the cost of everything. He is surely fortunate that the Republicans are too weak to swat a fly, because they are being served a generational opportunity. Yet, like Bill Clinton, Obama may be brought down by his own overreaching, Republicans or not.
Clinton's so-called Hillary Care bill was his undoing. Like Obama's Cap-and-Trade bill, Hillary Care was overreaching, and its details were unpalatable to Americans. Hillary Care came out strong, but died in the Senate, where its cautious procedural rules allow the Republican minority to debate the bill's ugly socialist details. The same will be true for Obama. The Senate lacks anywhere near the votes for cloture on the Cap-and-Trade bill. While Pelosi was able to keep the Cap-and-Trade bill's ugly details a secret until a few hours before the vote, Sen. Reid will be forced to allow a public debate. The GOP will then be able to show Americans the bill's true radical agenda. In short, nobody expects the House bill to pass The Senate. Expect Obama's approval ratings to fall into the mid 50's as a result.
Once Bill Clinton met his Waterloo in the Senate with Hillary Care, he moved on to govern from the center-left. The Clinton years became, surprisingly, a golden age of limited government, free trade, and prosperity. These good times were largely due to divided government and a President weakened by his perjury scandal, but they were also a reflection of Clinton's personality. Clinton clearly wanted to be loved above all else, even at the expense of abandoning his socialized medicine dream in favor of declaring that the "era of big government is over." Clinton was reelected, and most people remember him fondly.
Obama lacks Clinton's acceptance character flaw. For all the talk of his pragmatism, Obama comes off as a hard left ideologue. With advisers like Rahm Emanuel, who makes Karl Rove look like a pussycat, Obama will not roll right when his signature legislation is defeated or gutted in the Senate. While moral flexibility the ability to lie and mean it is a problem for regular folks, it is a boon for politicians.
Obama will face a showdown in The Senate over his Cap-and-Trade bill, and the bill's likely defeat will be the defining moment of his term. He either will become a left wing laughingstock or a more moderate crowd pleaser. Either way, we will gain the first real insight into his character.
Will The Senate Be Obamas Waterloo?
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Well, our Okie Senator says it will be... LOL...
Welcome to FR.
We still have the probelm with the EPA. They were given by the Supreme Court the ability to regulate CO2 in 2007. That was done based on some inaccurate science. The very same body has a report that was hidden from congress draft dated 3/9/2009. That report could be used to reopen that case and reverse a very bad decision.
Your Okie senator may be opposing cap and tax, however I’m betting that the Minnesota senators Klobuchar and Franken (is that unfunny clown really in the Senate now?) are voting for it.
If Zero is indeed defeated on cap and tax, as well as single payer health care, I doubt he is going to move toward the center like Clinton. It was partly due to Clinton needing to be liked, as well as political self preservation that drove his move toward the center. Zero’s response I’m afraid is going to be rather nasty, and likely to be through proxies like ACORN.
You said — If Zero is indeed defeated on cap and tax...
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He will be..., you can count on it.
Well said. If this bill dies in the Senate, I hope and pray that people wake up and smell the rotton eggs, and start fighting against the rest of this in mass like never before seen in our history.
We all need to jam the senate phone lines 24/7 and make OUR VOICES HEARD - NOW!!! They saw how angry we were about immigration - this is FAR WORSE than that....
Remember, Napolean was defeated by the Russian winter. His troops starved in the inhospitable terrain. Conservatives need to provide Obama with a similar playing field. Waterloo was only the final act of Napolean's aborted comeback.
You said — We all need to jam the senate phone lines 24/7 and make OUR VOICES HEARD - NOW!!! They saw how angry we were about immigration - this is FAR WORSE than that....
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I doubt this is “far worse” in terms of the public reaction to it. I think immigration was far more “worse” in terms of the public reaction. This one does not seem to generate the general public outcry, as that immigration issue did.
That’s why I always recommend this *one* video as *absolutely essential*...
Its one thing to gripe and complain about these things and disagree with it, but its quite *another* to convince your friends and neighbors and relatives and coworkers...
THEREFORE..., its also absolutely necessary for people to know the information in the following documentary. If there were simply *one* video that you could see and/or show people you know... this would be the *one*...
The following is an *excellent* video documentary on the so-called Global Warming I would recommend it to all FReepers. Its a very well-made documentary.
The Great Global Warming Swindle
If you want to download it, via a BitTorrent site (using a BitTorrent client), you can get it at the following link.
http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3635222/The_Great_Global_Warming_Swindle
[this is a high-quality copy, of about a gigabyte in size...]
Its worth seeing and having for relatives, friends, neighbors and coworkers to see.
Also, see it online here...
http://www.moviesfoundonline.com/great_global_warming_swindle.php
[this one is considerably lower quality, is a flash video and viewable online, of course...]
Buy it here...
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000WLUXZE
[this one would be the very highest quality version, on a DVD disk, of several gigabytes in size...]
Also, in split parts on YouTube...
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 1 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMA6sszChwQ
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 2 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERisgJ3QWjk
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 3 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HLVYwmZoxc
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 4 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr-AG3BA1Go
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 5 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbllTsBHuxk
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 6 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyK7C1OrAAo
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 7 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrIX8LcAuMQ
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 8 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-ZmCDOZbtM
THIS IS GREAT STUFF! Very well done and blows up most of the global warming myths with cold hard facts. It needs to go to every staff member of every Senator.
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 1 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMA6sszChwQ
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 2 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERisgJ3QWjk
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 3 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HLVYwmZoxc
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 4 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr-AG3BA1Go
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 5 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbllTsBHuxk
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 6 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyK7C1OrAAo
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 7 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrIX8LcAuMQ
The Great Global Warming Swindle (Part 8 of 8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-ZmCDOZbtM
Wow, what a wonderful read!!!!
“Eventually, however, all Presidents become the sum of their policies, and their popularity falls in line. “
Yep, 0 has a problem the left share in general: “They believe no one is as smart as they are.”
It might take time, but 0 will be blind sided and he will fall.
Scary thing, what then?

This bill will come back as often as Freddie Kruger....
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