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Parsing The Waxman-Markey Vote
Annuit Coeptis ^ | June 27, 2009 | Jay Henderson

Posted on 06/27/2009 6:05:24 AM PDT by jay1949

Nancy Pelosi et al. got the Waxman-Markey carbon tax bill through the House of Representatives by a very narrow vote yesterday. All accounts indicate that Pelosi pulled out the stops, calling in every favor and twisting every arm she could, to get her “legacy” legislation through. Interestingly, Harry Reid is going to hold the bill in the Senate until this fall, conceding that he lacks the votes to pass it.

The Senate, of course, consists of representation per state, not by population. If you parse the demographics, you can understand why Reid may not be able to get a cap-and-trade bill through.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: capandtrade; pelosi; senate; waxmanmarkey
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1 posted on 06/27/2009 6:05:24 AM PDT by jay1949
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To: jay1949

CONTACT INFORMATION FOR SENATE

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2280335/posts?page=1

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Even if your senator is currently listed as against the bill, give them plenty of ammo to stay that way. Therefore:

WRITE EARLY! CALL OFTEN!


2 posted on 06/27/2009 6:06:37 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Hey hey! Ho ho! Where's your Birth Certificate/ We've a right to know!)
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To: jay1949
I know this might be a dumb question, but here goes:

Must a bill pass both the House and the Senate before it goes to the president?

(I was under the impression that the House could send a bill directly to the president for his signature.)

3 posted on 06/27/2009 6:10:31 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: Jess Kitting

Not only must it pass both houses of Congress, but it has to be exactly alike.

If the Senate passes their form of Cap and Trade, it will go to whats called a Conference (made up of some House and some Senate members, where they will reconcile the two. Once they have a reconciled bill, it must pass both houses again before its sent to President Obama.


4 posted on 06/27/2009 6:13:13 AM PDT by Boiling Pots (B. Hussein Obama: The final turd George W. Bush laid on America)
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To: Jess Kitting

No, every bill or resolution must pass both bodies.


5 posted on 06/27/2009 6:14:46 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Jess Kitting
Yes, it must pass both houses. It must also be the same bill. Most times, the second body will pass a bill that is slightly different (i.e. changes have been made). When that happens, both bills come before a joint committee which hashes out the differences to come up with a bill that both bodies can support. That final bill is then re-introduced to both houses and voted on. If that final bill passes, it goes to the President's desk for signing.

Of course with this President, there will be a five day delay before he signs it because that is what he promised the American people he would do.

/sarc>

6 posted on 06/27/2009 6:16:48 AM PDT by Hoodat (For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: jay1949

This stupid bill will never get passed the Senate. Nevertheless, Congress needs to feel the heat for what they have tried to do. Republican congressmen who voted for this piece of crap legislation should be thrown out on their ear. This is the single biggest tax increase in American history and would do more to force businesses to relocate overseas than anything the government could have done.


7 posted on 06/27/2009 6:18:01 AM PDT by yazoo (Conservatives believe what they see. Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: Hoodat; cotton1706; Boiling Pots
Thanks for the information.

That is (somewhat) good news.

If the Senate delays it until September, that will give legislators an opportunity to read the bill and the American people time to discover what an economic disaster it would be for the country.

8 posted on 06/27/2009 6:21:51 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: yazoo

“Congress needs to feel the heat for what they have tried to do.”

Freeper question —

Can I get a dump on the votes taken by the House since January? I’d love to compare my new Congressman’s votes to Nancy Pelosi’s votes, for instance, and then contrast that to the votes of other Michigan reps (specially the GOP ones).

I gotta make sure that this vote that Schauer made yesterday drags him to the bottom in November ‘10,


9 posted on 06/27/2009 6:24:34 AM PDT by TWohlford
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To: jay1949

Does anybody have a list of who voted FOR this mess? In particular, which Rhinos?


10 posted on 06/27/2009 6:24:42 AM PDT by Highest Authority (DemonRats are pure EVIL)
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To: yazoo

“Congress needs to feel the heat for what they have tried to do.”

Amen.


11 posted on 06/27/2009 6:25:09 AM PDT by jay1949 (Work is the curse of the blogging class)
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To: Highest Authority

Hold your nose, grit your teeth, and go here:

http://politics.nytimes.com/congress/votes/111/house/1/477


12 posted on 06/27/2009 6:26:42 AM PDT by jay1949 (Work is the curse of the blogging class)
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To: TWohlford

You can get a free trial for Congressional Quarterly, which publishes comprehensive voting records, here:

http://corporate.cq.com/wmspage.cfm?parm1=12


13 posted on 06/27/2009 6:29:02 AM PDT by jay1949 (Work is the curse of the blogging class)
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To: TWohlford

Also, these might be helpful:

http://www.votesmart.org/official_five_categories.php?dist=voting_category.php

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/


14 posted on 06/27/2009 6:30:34 AM PDT by jay1949 (Work is the curse of the blogging class)
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To: jay1949

Pelosi is an evil witch.


15 posted on 06/27/2009 6:33:17 AM PDT by KansasGirl (I still think Obama is just plain creepy.)
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To: Jess Kitting

Don’t forget that right now he’s short three senators, Franken, Byrd and Kennedy. The republicans need a number of demoocrats to stick with them on a filibuster.

In the meantime, when Reid asks for unanimous consent to waive the reading of the bill and any amendments, there should be an objection so they’d be forced to read every word.


16 posted on 06/27/2009 6:33:56 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: Jess Kitting

Let me guess, you are a recent graduate of the public school system!


17 posted on 06/27/2009 6:34:03 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Sarah Palin...Unleashing the Fury of the Castrated Left!")
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To: jay1949

Couldn’t we call this the Waxman-Malarkey bill?


18 posted on 06/27/2009 6:35:39 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Hoodat

There are many in the Senate that want a environment bill but are opposed to the capping of carbon emissions. If you are in a state that produces coal, your utilities bill would double under this bill.

They may pass some type of bill but it will be nothing like the one shoved through the House yesterday.


19 posted on 06/27/2009 6:36:10 AM PDT by NoobRep
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To: Jess Kitting

It’s okay to ask; at least you are willing to learn about your government.


20 posted on 06/27/2009 6:37:17 AM PDT by Texas56
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