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GM Exec: Global Warming a "Crock," Hybrids "Feel Good" Cars
Patriot Room ^ | June 7, 2009 | Bill Dupray

Posted on 06/07/2009 2:55:50 PM PDT by Bill Dupray

I'm thinking that Bob Lutz, truthteller, is not long for the payroll of General Motors. After all, he is a Global Warming Denier, who, if this were the time of Henry VIII, would be burned at the stake as a heretic. But for now, it is nice to see at least one auto executive call BS on the Enviro-kooks.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics
KEYWORDS: crock; envirowhackos; generalmotors; globalwarming; gm; greens; hybrids; lutz
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1 posted on 06/07/2009 2:55:50 PM PDT by Bill Dupray
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To: Bill Dupray

I wonder if the Obamunists will be able to extort him into compliance, as has become their MO.


2 posted on 06/07/2009 3:00:08 PM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: Bill Dupray
I can hardly wait until Obama motors makes their little 'lectric cars for us little peoples, then suddenly a major 'cane threatens your area and we all have to evacuate and our little cars won't go over 45 mph and when it hits a little water, huh oh, it kills the batteries and the next charge station is over 50 miles away and 5 thousand cars need a charge all at the same time.

Don't sell your gas powered cars,keep them, in the next 10 years they will be more valuable than gold.

3 posted on 06/07/2009 3:01:21 PM PDT by Rapunzel (Never forget Fallujah..S. Helvenston RIP.....Sarah...Sarah...Sarah loves America)
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To: Rapunzel

http://www.teslamotors.com/models/index.php


4 posted on 06/07/2009 3:05:02 PM PDT by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: Bill Dupray

Lutz gets it. He alluded to the VW as an erstwhile “statement car” (statement: “I drive a beetle to show I’m not a part of the materialistic society”). That one was also built by a nazi.


5 posted on 06/07/2009 3:06:22 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: Rapunzel

Excellent points.


6 posted on 06/07/2009 3:08:04 PM PDT by savedbygrace (You are only leading if someone follows. Otherwise, you just wandered off... [Smokin' Joe])
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To: NavVet

Of course the stripped down model will cost 50K, so much for Americans without a good paying job can afford this as a luxury. Cam you imagine 50K people needing a 20 sec charge with a major storm brewing down their necks. It will make New Orleans after Katrina look like childs play.


7 posted on 06/07/2009 3:11:48 PM PDT by Rapunzel (Never forget Fallujah..S. Helvenston RIP.....Sarah...Sarah...Sarah loves America)
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To: Bill Dupray

Of course it is a near-crock, Lutz; GW is big business, get with the program before Barry sends Trump to fire you...


8 posted on 06/07/2009 3:26:11 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Bill Dupray

Great piece this guy is old school no BS for him.


9 posted on 06/07/2009 3:34:09 PM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: NavVet

Wow I will go fo one of these, it’s awesome!


10 posted on 06/07/2009 3:39:21 PM PDT by rodguy911 (HOME OF THE FREE BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE--GO SARAHCUDA !!)
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To: Rapunzel

There are a bunch of other companies promising electric cars with quick charge capability and 150-250 mile range at a more affordable price within the next two years. (Although you will still pay a premium) Detroit Electric, Nissan and a couple of Chinese companies all claim that they will offer cars at 25-35K within the next year to two.

The point of posting the link was not to dispute the fact that electrics are more expensive, but rather to point out that they aren’t all 45 MPH golf carts.

As far as the scenario about 50K people needing a 20 sec charge with a major storm on the way. I think an electric car is actually an advantage in this regard. Assuming anyone who owned an electric car would also have more than one day’s notice of the approaching storm, the electric car could be charged up to it’s full 300 mile range at home before you left the house. And if you did need some more juice after going a couple of hundred miles inland, any electric outlet would do. So after the gas stations are overwhelmed and out of fuel, you could stop at anywhere with a standard outlet.

Also, if you stay home, but lose power, your car can feed electricity back into your house to keep your fridge and flat screen running for 2-3 days.


11 posted on 06/07/2009 3:50:09 PM PDT by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: Bill Dupray

When Lutz ran Chrysler, they put out gorgeous sedans which looked like Ferraris, and made utilitarian vans which were the best-looking in the business. Then he left, and Chrysler’s sedans and minivans became ugly and tasteless (Daimler-Benz ruined Chrysler). He moved to GM and spoke bluntly about how ugly and weird their vehicles were (and not just the Pontiac Aztec, although that was the worst). He was starting to turn them around, but the UAW anchor and the recession brought on by the Left did in GM.


12 posted on 06/07/2009 3:53:11 PM PDT by hellbender
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To: Bill Dupray

Global Warming MY BUTT! As I write this, in central Minnesota, on the 7th of June, at 6PM, IT’S 48 DEGREES! This is the WARMEST it got today. Al Gore and nObama and KISS MY A$$!!


13 posted on 06/07/2009 3:58:54 PM PDT by scoobysnak71 (Just a National Security Threat, trying to get a nut.)
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To: Bill Dupray

Global warning is the new Roe-v-Wade for the democrats and liberals.


14 posted on 06/07/2009 3:59:13 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: Bill Dupray

Globalist warmers are worse than the flat earth dogmatists. The flat earthers had an excuse for their ignorance, and they weren’t intentionally scamming the world to redistribute wealth to elitist scum like Gore.


15 posted on 06/07/2009 4:50:17 PM PDT by pallis
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Can any of the electric cars actually power a car heater and head lists but not kill the mileage? I was listing to one of the car shows on the radio a while back. They had a caller that complained that when it was cold she got less than half the miles that when it was warm. The guys asked if she used the car heater when it got cold. When she put it together about when its cold and she turns on the heater she got mad at the car and the radio guys burst into laughter.


16 posted on 06/07/2009 4:50:28 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: NavVet

I think the real question is, what if a city the size of New Orleans is going to have a disaster, and a majority of the citizens charge their car at the same time? How many cars can charge at once before overloading the grid and causing a blackout?


17 posted on 06/07/2009 5:26:32 PM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Bill Dupray

I’ve met Bob Lutz, he seems to me to be a stand-up guy.

But just wait until Monday, and the chorus of liberal political demands for his resignation starts.

We now live in a FASCIST state, folks...


18 posted on 06/07/2009 6:43:20 PM PDT by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: Bill Dupray
But ignoring the nutballs cost them their company.

Capitalists don't have the luxury of ignoring part of their potential customer base, because in a Capitalist society, you can be sure your competition will embrace them.

What the hell is that supposed to mean? Do you really think the car companies are failing because of that?

They are failing because they make expensive crap!

They need to drop their prices to reflect the real price of the vehicle.

If they were smart they would get away from the hybrid garbage and bring back the diesel powered car.

19 posted on 06/07/2009 8:28:47 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: I got the rope

Actually, the car companies that are failing are failing for a host of reasons, but at the top of the list is very weak management which caved in to the socialist union thuggery and allowed the unions to extort the profits form the car business to fund programs that had no way of being sustainable under circumstances other than continuous growth, a state that cannot in reality exist in a capitalistic system. And the management should know that and did know it, yet allowed the extortion to destory the longterm health of the compnay and the industry. Any car company producing ina non-union shop environment can sustain their industry through good and bad economic periods. The weight of irrational union extortion made it impossible for GM and Chrysler. And only Ford seems to have hedged the failure for a short ime beyond the failure of GM and Chrysler. You can bet the unions are now poised to take complete control with the affirmative action figure’s goon squad in control of the federal oligarchy the unions wanted in the first place. The next step to total federal control will be universal healthcare which will give temporary relief to the auto companies, allowing the unions to extort even more.


20 posted on 06/07/2009 8:38:24 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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