Outback II.
Posted on 06/06/2009 5:13:34 PM PDT by appleseed
might be 'easier' to just keep several grosses of .22LR to trade for necessities...Im bettin in a real shtf day that a couple rounds of .22 will buy alot more than gold will...
LOL
make sure you have at least 200 shotgun shells if you envision being without police protection for more than a few days.
My actual B.O.B (Bug Out Bag) is a Maxpedition Jumbo and contains Quik-Klot (several types and sizes), splints, wound bandages and compression bandages, plastic sheeting to treat a sucking chest wound, a couple of knives + a multi-tool, sunglasses, emergency space blanket and emergency tube tent, Para Cord (100'), Wire saw, magnesium bar for fire making, compass, signal mirror, whistle, spare mags for pistol & M4, spare ammo of the type of firearm I would likely be packing in a SHTF situation for a total of about 120rds. and that's about all. A lot of that stuff if not most takes up very little space in the bag or is flat and easily slid into a full bag.
In addition to the B.O.B. I have a toolkit sized ammo box with a variety of ammo inside. Notably: .22LR, .22WMR, 9mm, 45acp, .223, and 460 magnum. I will be packing guns in all those calibers for a BUG OUT and nothing more. If I have time, I'll grab my M1A Supermatch and ammo for that and probably my Benelli M121 & the Garand. The ammo for those is within easy reach.
I guess my biggest issue at this point is: #1 getting a good vehicle in which to bug out. While I'd love to have THIS it's far more realistic at this point that I'm going to get THIS within the next 4-to-8 months. In addition I plan on getting THIS to haul all this stuff around and be certain it will make whatever terrain I choose to cross.
Over the past several years, I have worked on building and stocking a ABOB here at home and a BOB for my truck. One of my coworkers saw this and commented on it. When I explained its function, he took me over to his car and pointed to his BOB, which is kind of surprising considering his political views.
We were surprised to hear a friend we were visiting earlier this evening express concern that “Civil War II is coming”. This lady is almost 60, never married, retired school teacher who is not political nor even very interested in current affairs. She voted for McCain but is not a vocal person when it comes to politics. I would call her a sheeple which is why we were surprised to hear her say that.
I sorta kinda disagree here at least partially. I might keep a couple of bricks of 22LR for trading purposes but the thought of playing Jeremiah Johnson and the other Mountain Men of the distant past isn't going to be the new reality in any future scenario of this type. To survive you must expend fewer calories than you can take in during the gathering operation. Hunters aren't going to be able to effectively do this as game supplies dwindle. There is a great book on this topic called Survival Poaching by Ragnar Benson.
Plus you start popping off rounds (unless you've got a suppressor and the subsonic ammo to go along with the "can") in the rural areas and you are going to attract all sorts of vermin looking to take what you've got and they won't be afraid of your firearms. In fact they'll be glad because they want those guns! Your traps can be altered to dissuade this kind of unfriendly visitor. The books on this are called MAN TRAPPING #1 & #2 both by Ragnar Benson. Many of these traps are the exact ones I was trained to rig as an infantry officer in a number of different army schools. I know they will work.
The only way to efficiently gather those calories is by trapping both the big & small game. But rather birds and fish and the small game that will be hardier and more prolific breeders than the larger animals.
The real danger of a pump action is the likelihood that a relative novice is going to short stroke the second shot and have a dynamic double feed jam that is going to require a gunsmith to clear. In the meantime the defender is going to wind up very dead. That's the main reason I went with the Benelli. I can fire all eight rounds from the extended tube before the first hull hits the ground. The pro-port system insures all my rounds go to the same point of aim even from the hip. The recoil of the Benelli is soft in comparison to the pump because the massive bolt group is in motion and absorbing a lot of that energy while insuring a clean extraction every single time.
I don’t. I certainly wouldn’t take parts out of a working 2nd gun to fix a first one that already broke so they might as well be different styles and brands.
Outback II.
You're looking at it backwards. If the first one breaks, you use the second one. If the second one breaks, you cannibalize the pair of them to make one working piece.
Yeah lol. I just realized that. But I am not going back duplicating existing guns its far cheaper to buy springs, extractors etc and put them in little ziplock bags. Guns last 100,200 years I’d be more worried about starving or getting a slight wound with no medical care than the tools breaking.
Added to the list. Cool pic of Stonewall on your home page.
hehehe...sorry ex but I couldnt resist teasin ya a little bit...8^}...all good stuff on yer list, except for the suckin chest wound part...
them 'rock crawlin' trucks have always been flexible, but alas im 'stuck' with the old school F-150 in a pinch...if I cant haul it in him, I dont need it on the list I reckons...
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