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To: SeaHawkFan

“There is no such thing as a “good” Calvinist. Aren’t all Calvinists ‘depraved’?

Yes, I was just using “good” in a relative way. We are all sinners. Scripture is clear on that.

“What happened to double predestination? Is salvation available to all mankind?”

We believe in the free offer of the gospel. God has commanded us to preach the gospel throughout the world. God knows who He will call out of this world. We don’t. So we do our job - give the gospel, pray for the lost, witness, etc., trusting Him for the outcome.

“You don’t know if he was a good pastor.”

I base that on his apparent great success in winning many souls to Christ, and apparently discipling them well (not perfectly, nor does any pastor). Also, on his writings, which edified and discipled many more than were in his immediate church.

“We do know he was arrogant, and that is hardly a quality of a good pastor.” An arrogant pastor is a terrible thing. But I don’t know why you say Calvin was particularly arrogant.

Do you believe Calvin was a Christian? If not, why not. If so, you should not attack him on such a personal level. We should love one another.


32 posted on 06/06/2009 8:42:52 AM PDT by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: Marie2
We believe in the free offer of the gospel. God has commanded us to preach the gospel throughout the world. God knows who He will call out of this world. We don’t. So we do our job - give the gospel, pray for the lost, witness, etc., trusting Him for the outcome.

That is not an answer to my question. My question was, "Is Salvation available to all mankind?" Do you believe that God predestined each and every particular person to eteranal life or eternal damnation and theree is nothing that individual can decide to change that destiny? A lot of Calvinists believe this, but Calvin wrote (paraphrasing) that every man has been given sufficient grace to understand the message of the Gospel.

An arrogant pastor is a terrible thing. But I don’t know why you say Calvin was particularly arrogant.

You never heard of his involvement in the murder of Servitus?

Do you believe Calvin was a Christian? If not, why not. If so, you should not attack him on such a personal level. We should love one another.

I cannot judge the state of his salvation. I find that theologians who delve in minutia rather that the plain meaning of the Bible miss the message of the Bible by a wide margin. Thank God one does not have to half an in depth understanding of Calvinism to have eternal life, and I understand it far better than most.

42 posted on 06/06/2009 1:53:56 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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