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To: ReformationFan

Reformationist tend to think that all ills of religion would be solved by strong 5 point Calvanism.....

But Joel’s bad theology is not FOCUSED on salvation, rather than a philosophy of health and wealth...

BTW, if Calvanism is SO important of a doctrine, why was it not codified clearly in scripture - that is, require over 1,000 years and John Calvin to illuminate us to his theory of salvation?

What happened to SOLO SCRIPTURA?
I don’t need 5 points, I need the bible.
I don’t need a seminary degree, I need love, and grace, and peace.

If Joel O got up tomorrow and started preaching 5 point Calvanism, but kept teaching health and wealth, he would have just as many followers.

Nobody wants the path of the Cross. That’s what offends people.


10 posted on 06/05/2009 9:55:29 PM PDT by BereanBrain
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To: BereanBrain

Ah, gentle Berean -

I encourage you to examine the Scriptures and see which of any of Calvin’s main theological points is wrong. To dismiss it as some doctrine just coughed up in the middle ages is not fair. It is a system of theology, granted, but no one has ever claimed it is new revelation.

It is distilled as “the five points” for convenience, so don’t let the rigidity of the description bother you. We have other names for doctrines: “dispensationalism.” “Scofieldism” “charismatic” “health and wealth gospel” “covenant theology” “anabaptist” “reformed” “trinitarian” etc. Each of these is shorthand for an interpretation of scripture.

I don’t hold to all of the above. My point is, examine “Calvinism” like a good Berean, and tell us what points contradict Scripture.

A good Calvinist is always 100% Sola Scriptura. We do not believe we need John Calvin to show us the way of salvation. We believe the way of salvation has been available to mankind since the Fall. We acknowledge Calvin as a good theologian who outlined biblical doctrine in a solid, comprehensible way. We do not view him as infallible, nor as any type of savior, just a good pastor.


12 posted on 06/05/2009 10:15:42 PM PDT by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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To: BereanBrain
if Calvanism is SO important of a doctrine, why was it not codified clearly in scripture

It is - folks just don't want to see it.

What happened to SOLO SCRIPTURA?

I don't know - it's not a Calvinist/Biblical point. SOLA Scriptura, on the other hand...

28 posted on 06/06/2009 7:10:18 AM PDT by PAR35
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