[Kevmo]

There’s nothing snide about saying if cold fusion worked it would make money.
***Sure there is, just like saying the same thing about hot fusion. Anyone generating electrodollars from that yet,hmmmm? After 30 years & $billions poured into it?

That’s just simple reality.
***And it gets no simpler than putting up or shutting up.

If it worked it would revolutionize the energy business, that would make money.
***If it didn’t work you and guys like you could take my money until the cows come home and deliver more of your favorite source of BS.

If you think that’s snide you’re really just not equipped for these kind of discussions.
***Sure I am. But you seem to have a soft underbelly.

I’m backing it up, I’m still here explaining why you’re wrong.
***Back it up with $, not BS. Take my money.

I’m not bullying anybody. You’re the guy chanting “put up or shut up”
***You appear, by your own words, to have been mocking cold fusioneers for 20 years. That means you have been bullying.

I’m just pointing out that bar bets won’t help or settle science.
***Perhaps it’s time for the famous quote from Thomas Khune
Thomas Kuhn (1922-1996), author of the enormously influential “Structure of Scientific Revolutions.” Basically, paradigm shifts in science only take place when the old guard scientists die off. Science is flawed like any other human endeavor. It’s characterized by the creation of paradigms which exist when someone comes up with a great way of explaining something. When flaws appear in that first discoverer’s fascade, the collective impulse on the part of the scientific community is to either ignore or minimalize the importance of the new evidence until enough scientists die off that the new generation can really appreciate the power of the new ideas in their own right. When this later process occurs science undergoes what’s refered to as a “paradigm shift.”
Kuhn rejects the traditional view that science is a linear accretion of knowledge. At a certain point in the life of the paradigm, anomalies begin to appear. At first they are rationalized, as the paradigm is stretched and patched up to account for them. But eventually the anomalies become too glaring. Someone then comes along and proposes a bold new paradigm that completely replaces the old one. For example, Einstein’s theory of relativity supplanting the former Newtonian system. Once the skeptics are defeated and the new paradigm is universally accepted, normal science resumes, but exclusively within the framework of the new paradigm.

And I’m definitely not whining, that sound you here is me holding back laughter.
***If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, walks like a duck, and isn’t a goose, it’s probably a duck. You fit the whiner profile, and it looks like I predicted on post 19 at least one of you whiners would show up.

I noticed they’re not taking your money, from what I can see on your links, and admittedly I’m not that good at reading intrade, it doesn’t look like anybody has been interested in taking your bet for about a year.
***You are right about not being able to read the links. Last year it was the naysayers who took the Cold Fusioneer true believers’ money, and this year it looks like all we get is a bunch of sniveling whiners like you rather than traders putting their money down.

Lots of people make money on polls, just ask Scott Rasmusen.
***Then go and make money on polls & quit bothering us serious folk, shortpants. Can you do it with $50? Not as far as I can tell. But you can on Intrade. “$50 to $46,562 in 2 years on Intrade. “ http://www.intrade.com/jsp/intrade/misc/blog/?initialBlogId=jd_1#jd_13

In the end that’s really what intrade is, especially when it comes to elections, it’s a poll bar bet, you find out how many people are willing to bet one candidate will win vs the other, that’s a poll, except that the group that’s right wins money.
***Blah blah blah, more hat, no cattle, all Bovine Scatology.

Which is actually an OK model for predicting elections.
***Make up yer mind, flipflopper.

But cold fusion isn’t an election, it doesn’t matter how many people take which side of your cold fusion bet it doesn’t change the basic laws of physic cold fusion claims violate.
*** I can see you really don’t know what you’re talking about. If cold fusion were as much of a chimera as you claim, you’d have no trouble whatsoever with taking my money because there would be no chance that Dr. Arata’s experiment would be replicated. Go on... you know you want to... just to prove me wrong if nothing else.

I’ve worked in start up companies, I know about making money on something I believe to be true.
***nonsequitur — take that writing class I mentioned.

If you think cold fusion is real get out there and really help it come to pass.
***I am. By popping the balloons of blowhards like you, and by putting my money where my mouth is.

At the end of the day it’s meaningless fluff.
***Equivocation. Money is money and at the end of the day if what you’re saying is true, you would have my money in your pocket. But all you offer is talk, bs, baloney, and nonsense.

It’s still just a silly intrade bet and will have no impact on the world.
***It would have impact on my corner of it. And yours as well. And the prior Intrade Cold Fusion contract has already had its impact. Your peacock stance is gettin’ old because you have nothing to back up what you say.

If cold fusion works there’s much better ways to make money on it.
***Feel free to point them out, but for your own sake you should do it on another thread because you’ve lost so much credibility on this thread. Who should listen to you? You don’t put your money where your mouth is. You can barely back up your position.

And there’s much better ROIs on things I believe true than offered at intrade.
***More wussy equivocation rather than backing up your words with action.

Yup nobody buys your contracts. Not me, not people that do intrade, nobody. There’s deep meaning here, but not what you want it to mean.
***Yep, the meaning is that the contract is worth more than $5.50, and now it’s at $21? or $23? and going higher because the deep meaning there is that when it comes to putting your money where your mouth is, no one wants to back up their pseudoscience claim any more. So bug off, naysayer. Either quit yapping or buy my contracts.

Funny how the guy doing all the insulting from behind the safety of a keyboard includes “wuss” in his list of insults. There always seems to be a 1::1 correlation between the people who say the kinds of things that would get you punched in person on the internet, and the people who everybody else is a wuss.
***I’ve offered my money, what else do you want? If Intrade doesn’t settle any science, exactly how would punching me out settle science in your mind? Geez, you really do have trouble putting some clear thoughts together. Maybe I shouldn’t sell you contracts, it might be taking advantage of the mentally deficient.

[razorboy]

Hot fusion is making money, it’s called nuclear power.

You’ve had that intrade bet on for over a year. If anybody actually took the bet you’ve already lost it once.

I will not do intrade, I know you worship it but I think it’s stupid. I’ll lay the bet in person, but understand if we meet in person the first thing I have to do is deck you for being a rude insulting punk in this thread. Sorry I believe in the John Wayne rules, and in every movie he ever made he’d have punched you by now; the good news is I believe in the John Wayne rules after decking you we could then move on with life.

Kuhn’s all social science. Cold fusion is physical science. No intrade bet will change physics.

The only person on this thread whining is the guy that thinks intrade matters. Mostly whining because nobody will take his bet.

Intrade’s usefulness for predicting elections is the same as any other poll. Because elections are polls, they’re just polls that count. BUT let’s keep in mind also that at many times during the course of the election intrade was dead wrong, Fred Thompson traded very highly on intrade for quite a while. Like all other polls the closer it gets to the actual election the likelier it is to be right.

I’m not going to bet on intrade, and all your bovine excrement isn’t going to make me. Heck at this point I wouldn’t make the bet just because of how clearly it irritates you.

It’s not a nonsequitor at all. You’re jumping up and down here demanding people put their money where their mouth is, I told you way you SHOULD do that which would actually be worthy of respect (work for one of the companies), and then I told you I’ve followed one of the methods (working for a startup I believe in). Not a nonsequitor at all. If you believe in cold fusion so much, if you REALLY want to put your money where your mouth is, make it your job.

No equivocation at all. I will not intrade, I will not intrade over cold fusion, I will not intrade over elections, I will not intrade for sports, I will not intrade green eggs and ham. I WILL NOT INTRADE. No equivocation, there is nothing in the world that will ever make me put 1 dime on intrade. EVER.

I already did point out ways for you to make money on it: invest, join a company working on it. You fled from those idea and demanding intrade bets.

Punching you out wouldn’t be about science. Punching you out would be how everyone that calls somebody else a wuss, ESPECIALLY people that do it from behind the safety of a keyboard, should be treated. Everybody that’s ever called anybody a wuss is a jerk, and all jerks should get popped. Again, John Wayne rules.