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Abortion Doctor Killing?
ConservativeAmerican.org ^ | 5/31/9 | Peter Andrew

Posted on 05/31/2009 11:33:23 AM PDT by Peter Andrew Conservative

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To: P-Marlowe
A trial by a jury of your peers (as guaranteed by our constitution) has certainly NEVER been commonplace in any totalitarian regime.

Correct, but it is extremely easy for a totalitarian regime to control the jury pool in such a way that the innocent will be convicted.

41 posted on 05/31/2009 2:11:04 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: P-Marlowe; xzins

>> That should be cause for celebration. But I don’t see that kind of reaction. Hence, I can only conclude that deep down we really don’t believe [abortion] is murder. It’s bad, but it isn’t in the same ballpark as murder.

Many people ‘deep down’ do believe abortion is murder.

But it’s all about the law and only within the rule of law will the tragedy of abortion be lessened. As it stands, abortion is legal killing.


42 posted on 05/31/2009 2:35:25 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: Gene Eric
But it’s all about the law and only within the rule of law will the tragedy of abortion be lessened.

Then it will never happen.

Killing unborn children is protected by our constitution and killing those who kill unborn children is murder.

America does not believe that killing unborn children is murder so it isn't.

That's the law.

Work within THAT.

43 posted on 05/31/2009 2:58:24 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe; xzins; wagglebee
Are we serious when we call Abortion "murder" or are we just bloviating?

I don't see any easy answers.

It's not murder because judges say it's not murder. However, the governed pass laws in states restricting abortion and courts throw those laws out. So if the courts want to just impose their will and not rule impartially based on the law do they still have the authority to say it's not murder?

The passage I found in Exodus 21:22-23 that I think applies indirectly does have a judge deciding.

44 posted on 05/31/2009 3:06:46 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: patriot preacher

All the same, I’m convinced this is a case of a nonbeliever killing a nonbeliever.


45 posted on 05/31/2009 3:09:20 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: xzins; P-Marlowe
Are we bloviating when we say “God will repay.”? It hasn’t happened yet. We’re still waiting.

I think we are already starting to pay for abortion. The magnet of jobs for illegal immigrants is a direct result of the labor shortage in this country due to reduced birthrates.

46 posted on 05/31/2009 3:10:50 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wagglebee; P-Marlowe; xzins; Dr. Eckleburg; narses
However, this has been commonplace in EVERY totalitarian regime in history.

The courts created this mess because they imposed abortion on the American people instead of kicking the issue back to the legislative bodies where it should have been resolved. The legislative process is messy and doesn't guarantee the left the outcome they want.

Now we see a killer (we presume killed because the guy was an abortionist) and get a little excited because the abortionist got a little "street justice".

IOW, the issue is only heating up because of the courts not inspite of them.

47 posted on 05/31/2009 3:20:11 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: P-Marlowe; Gene Eric
America does not believe that killing unborn children is murder so it isn't.

When did we get a say in it?

48 posted on 05/31/2009 3:23:08 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: P-Marlowe; wmfights; wagglebee; blue-duncan; xzins; Dr. Eckleburg; narses

Since I believe everything is by the hand of God, it is more appropriate to ask if the death of Tiller is by the direct action of God. In the same way as God saw to the death of Herod Agrippa I, this, too, could be by the direct appointment of God. After all, Tiller was a serial murderer.


49 posted on 05/31/2009 3:38:45 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain, Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: P-Marlowe

>> Then it will never happen.

I believe the legitimate and legal cause of Life can reduce the impact of abortion. It’s a humanitarian concern that should know no political or religious boundaries. Unfortunately, abortion is often characterized as something that should only concern ‘religious’ folks. That needs to change. Those that don’t think abortion is murder should at least recognize it’s legal killing.


50 posted on 05/31/2009 3:50:58 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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To: xzins; P-Marlowe; wmfights; wagglebee; blue-duncan; Dr. Eckleburg; narses
Since I believe everything is by the hand of God, it is more appropriate to ask if the death of Tiller is by the direct action of God.

God hardened Pharaoh's heart so the whole world would learn He is God. Maybe the trial of the killer will bring out the horror of abortion and force our govt to turn away from it. I'm just hoping.

I know it's not very nice to say, but I really don't have any pity for Tiller, or his family. We've all sinned, but to continue in it makes it hard for me to feel anything for them. Especially when I think of the babies that will not be killed because of him.

51 posted on 05/31/2009 3:52:53 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: wmfights; P-Marlowe
I really don't have any pity for Tiller

Nor do I. As Marlowe has insisted, and he is right, Tiller is a murderer. There is no sympathy for the devil.

I do disagree that his execution should have been at the discretion of a human. I would want to leave vengeance to God.

52 posted on 05/31/2009 3:59:24 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain, Pro Deo et Patria)
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To: xzins; P-Marlowe
I do disagree that his execution should have been at the discretion of a human.

God gave us the laws that established our civilization. Judges have chosen to ignore those laws, imposing new ones instead. Now somebody comes along and decides to impose his law, not very surprising.

I would want to leave vengeance to God.

There is no way Tiller could do what he did and believe in Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior. He would have stopped and repented.

53 posted on 05/31/2009 5:21:40 PM PDT by wmfights (If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
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To: Peter Andrew Conservative

His chance to confess his guilt and be forgiven is gone. It was possible—it happened for the man who founded NARAL and Jane Roe of Roe vs Wade. Too bad that chance is now gone.


54 posted on 05/31/2009 6:01:05 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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