Posted on 05/28/2009 7:36:58 AM PDT by IbJensen
Stronger arguments than the truth? With the litany you have described, you have sold any rational argument down the river, looking for “perfection” in strength of argument.
Welcome to FR.
Thanks for the heads-up!
It’s getting hot out there for Hussein, expect more.
>>>I can think of all sorts of reasons off the top of my head that this could benefit Chrysler.
>>Could you list a few of them?
Some excerpts from a Bloomberg Article: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601170&refer=home&sid=aVXrNfdjNdQQ
Plans announced last week to shed almost 2,000 retail outlets are designed to bolster the survivors, GM and Chrysler said. Reducing competition from stores with the same brands is supposed to allow the remainder to boost prices and profit, and to reinvest in their businesses to keep adding customers.
That echoes the strategy of Toyota, the world’s largest automaker, in growing to second behind GM in U.S. market share. U.S. stores for Toyota and Honda Motor Co. each averaged more than 1,100 sales in 2008, almost three times as many as GM’s and Chrysler’s, consulting firm Grant Thornton found.....
The strategy at Toyota is pretty simple: keep the dealer count rational, don’t locate them too close to each other and maximize their units per outlet. A profitable dealer can invest in their dealership and personnel. Average new-auto revenue was $14.3 million for GM dealers and $12.8 million for Chrysler last year, compared with $40.9 million for Toyota, based on data from auto-research company Edmunds.com. Dealers also make money on used vehicles, parts and service.
Each GM store averaged 444 new-auto sales, while Chrysler had 405, according to consulting firm Grant Thornton. Ford Motor Co. was similar, at 483. Japan’s three biggest automakers dwarfed those totals, with 1,200 for Toyota, 1,150 for Honda and 764 for Nissan Motor Co., Grant Thornton found.
And yet you judge the strength of an argument on the basis of your opponent's view of that argument? Interesting, and self-defeating.
All I can guess is with low-ball sales of replacement dealerships to Obama’s cronies.
Like what?
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2009/05/dealergate-statistical-evidence-that.html
What are the Odds?
All other factors being equal, what are the odds that RLJ’s dealerships would remain open while all other area dealerships would be shuttered? The approximate odds of such an occurrence can be calculated. 789 of the Chrysler’s dealerships are closing, which represents 25% of the total (according to MSNBC).
Recall that Chrysler claimed that its formula for determining whether a dealership should close or not included “sales volume, customer service scores, local market share and average household income in the immediate area.”
Thus, the odds that any, randomly selected, single dealership would remain open is roughly 75%. The odds that a single dealership would close is roughly 25%.
In the Bentonville, AR territory, the odds that RLJ would remain while its competition gets axed is .75 * .25 * .25 = .046875 (4.6%).
In Huntsville, AL, the odds are .75 * .25 * .25 = .046875.
In Branson, MO, .75 * .25 *.25 *.25 = .01171875.
In Lee’s Summit, MO, .75 * .25 *.25 *.25 *.25 = .0029296875.
In Shreveport, LA, .75 * .25 *.75 = .140625.
What are the odds of all of these RLJ dealerships remaining open while their competitors are wiped out? Maybe 1/10,000,000 of 1%. Yes, that’s one ten-millionth of one percent.
Approximately the odds that I’ll win American Idol. Or that you’ll land two frisbees, simultaneously, on each of Barack Obama’s teleprompters during one of his televised speeches.
Hello, mainstream media: anyone listening? How about you, class-action lawyers?
Here's a news flash for you. Reporters aren't investigators, regardless of what they choose to call themselves. They rely, almost solely on someone spilling the beans and leaking information to them. They can't subpoena. They can't wiretap. They can't depose. Those are all powers held exclusively by the state. I'm not going to hold my breath and hope that there's at least one patriot "in the know" in the Obama administration who will be that whistle blower.
Until the public pressure builds, no one in the US Attorney's office or FBI will investigate. That's why these accusations and allegations are vitally important - they apply public pressure where the traditional media has abdicated it's primary public responsibility.
1. How would the left know this?
2. Why would car selling be 90% run by one party affilation? It's a business. It doesn't make sense.
Next, the Left will be telling us "it's old news". They are lying their asses off.
At least one terminated franchise-holder claimed his was being “given” to another dealer in the neighborhood.
Whether he actually meant “given” in the classical sense of “at no cost” or “sold cheap” is indeterminate.
Looks like “HarriedHarry”, maker of the original assertion, “is no more”.
That is some poor statistics there. You are applying overall population percentages to local markets.
The Bentonville market has three area delaers. Chrysler has opted to close two. The odds of the RLJ dealership surviving based on a random draw are 1 in 3.
Huntsville - 1 in 3
Branson - 1 in 4
Lee’s Summit - 1 in 5
Shreveport - 2 in 3
But we are not dealing with random pulls. There may be political mischief or RLJ may have better performing, better capitalized dealers. The folks behind this group have some money and may have been better able to invest in their dealerships than other single owned dealerships.
Sure they are Republicans. They are successful business owners. Key word being successful. Odd that only one of the dealers was a Donkey Donor and only at $200. But it isn’t just about the Repub/Donkey donors, it is also about some of the top performers. There are alot 5 Star Rated dealerships that are being closed. No where, No How does that make sense. I would love to see Sotero/Gibbs explain that one.
Do the dealers get fair market value for their business or what kind of deal are they getting for being forced out of business?
This really is outrageous. Why isn’t UAW paying a similar drastic devastation as the dealers?
You're welcome.
Didn't want to pester you my friend, but, the *subject* was in the same vein as the little discussion we shared just the other day.
Besides this one also didn't require one squint to see, either. ;^)
"It’s getting hot out there for Hussein..."
Yes.
It most certainly looks like it and the prospects for things getting a good deal warmer pretty good, too.
~huh. :o)
Now let us see our conservative blogs such as Drudge et al take this and run like crazy with it.
Good grief we're talking about "Monica-Gate" Part II, here!!
While the MSM quislings both print and broadcast will ignore the story, they' ll ultimately be FORCED to "report" on it.
Such fun. :^)
"...expect more."
From your lips to His ears, my friend. ;^)
Hehe...that's funny. Obama's running this show. It isn't about the people and fair market value. It's only about Obama and what's in his best interest.
Rumor here (MI) is that the Troy Motor Mall dealer is on the list, that he's one of the top 10 in sales in the country, and that just before the closure went public, the Chrysler president personally "encouraged" him to buy 300 units.
This has gone beyond just looking like a snake. It's beginning to smell like a snake, too.
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