Not to belie the Authors underlying point too badly, but this quote:
“First of all, socialism, communism and fascism are kissing cousins, intimately related to one another. “
Is painful to read as a history scholar and not even remotely accurate as 31 Million Dead on the WWII European Eastern Front will attest.
Let’s keep our argument to the facts please, they’re on our side. Now is not the time for our side to be producing sound-bytes which can be used to incorrectly paint the entire Conservative Movement as “Ignorant of History.” This quote certainly could qualify.
Fascism, Communism, and Socialism all put the state above the individual. All did away with dissenters and undesirables. Read Goldberg's book, it will explain why they are linked. It also very nicely summarizes why the war happened between these more alike than different ideologies.
If you are referring to the Russians opposing the NAZI’s I see your point. I would point out though that a Cowboys fan and a Steelers fan both like football, just a different way of getting there.
Not to belie the Authors underlying point too badly, but this quote:
“First of all, socialism, communism and fascism are kissing cousins, intimately related to one another. “
Is painful to read as a history scholar and not even remotely accurate as 31 Million Dead on the WWII European Eastern Front will attest.
Let’s keep our argument to the facts please, they’re on our side. Now is not the time for our side to be producing sound-bytes which can be used to incorrectly paint the entire Conservative Movement as “Ignorant of History.” This quote certainly could qualify.
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You couldn’t be more wrong.
Both fascism and communism were forms of socialism. That is simply a fact - and I documented that merely by defining the acronyms “USSR” and “NAZI.”
Fascism was a national-based form of socialism, and communsim was a class-based form of socialism. Much of the outworkings of both systems were identical to one another.
Jonah Goldberg’s book - as just one among many - show just how many similarities there were between the two forms of socialism, and how many liberals were sympathetic to both as a result.
The fact that Hitler turned on Stalin had FAR more to do with his view of Aryan domination (and the fact that he was insane) than it had to do with ideology.
And you should also ask yourself - given that you seem to think that the fact that they fought means they were entirely unrelated systems - why it is that when someone is murdered, the first people the police look at are the victim’s very own family members?
I stand by what I said.
I thought I’d also say this, based on my study of history.
When Hitler attacked, Stalin was forced to drop the whole “Communist” thing and urge the people to fight for the “Motherland.”
And the Russian people didn’t hate the Germans because they were Nazis, but because they were Germans.
I recall reading a quote about Russian tank crews who had been trapped in fires and had their faces burned off. The author was very clear: the Russians were filled with hate - and couldn’t wait to get back to the front so they could kill “more Germans.”
Hitler’s attack and Russia’s counterattack was NOT about “fascism vs. communism.” It was about “Germany vs. Russia.”
First of all, socialism, communism and fascism are kissing cousins, intimately related to one another.
Eden was perfectly correct when he called them kissing cousins. Because two sides calling themselves different names slaughtered each other in great numbers does not make them totally different. Solzhenitsyn didn't see much difference between communism and nazism.