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Hello, Iowa & [New Hampshire]? I have Governor Palin on Line One… (2012 Robocalls Begin)
Mudflats ^ | 3/25/09

Posted on 03/25/2009 4:19:01 AM PDT by lewisglad

got a few interesting emails yesterday I’d like to share. First, in the morning I had one from a Mudflatter in New Hampshire. Then another one. And another. Then last night I got an email from…..Iowa. All three said just about the same thing:

Hi, AKM!

I wanted to let you know that I just received an interesting phone call. It was an automated poll and it asked the following questions:

1. Do you have a favorable opinion of Sarah Palin?

2. Gov. Palin thinks A, B, C, D & E do you agree with Gov. Palin?

3. Do you feel it is important that Gov. Palin is reelected as Gov. of Alaska?

What do you make of that?

Well, I’ll tell you what I make of that.

The Iowa caucuses, the first presidential contest, dramatically winnow the candidate field. There are a maximum of “three tickets” out of Iowa, which means that since 1972 no candidate has won his party’s presidential nomination who did not finish in the top three in a contested Iowa caucus. And in only one election year, 1988 — when Republican George H.W. Bush and Democrat Michael Dukakis both finished third — did an eventual presidential nominee not finish either first or second in Iowa.

New Hampshire carries even more historical clout. From the Granite State primary, there are just “two tickets.” In fact, from 1952 through 1988, no U.S. president was elected who did not first win the New Hampshire primary. The only two exceptions in the last 56 years were Bill Clinton, who in 1992 finished second to Paul Tsongas, and George W. Bush, who in 2000 was beaten by John McCain.

That’s right, you heard it here first. (Unless, of course, you live in Iowa or New Hampshire) Looks like somebody has amped it up, and is testing the waters already. But here’s the really interesting part. Look at that last question. “Do you feel it’s important that Governor Palin is re-elected as the governor of Alaska?”

Interesting.

Is our governor wondering if a re-election bid is necessary, or whether she should just go for the book deal -> publicity tour -> big money -> start campaigning for 2012 in 2010 option? Notice that there was no mention of any other elected office. No Senate. No House of Representatives. Just running for re-election as governor. Murkowski and Young may be sleeping a little more soundly tonight.

Perhaps the governor is interested in running the state for another four years only if it fits her agenda. If that’s what it takes to win the love of the Lower 48, well…then…alright. (heaving gigantic sigh) But, I mean why bother with Alaska unless you have to, right?

Certainly the GOP Senate leadership has done their level best to make Lisa Murkowski bullet proof in 2010. It’s possible for Palin to topple Don Young, assuming he is not incarcerated by that time, but the House of Representatives probably seems pretty low-brow for Palin compared to the siren song of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

But, however the scenario plays out, the formation of SarahPAC, and now the robo-polls in Iowa and New Hampshire have made it very clear where this train is headed.

So, let’s take this one step further. Imagine if you will, a presidential election between Barack Obama going for his second term, vs. Sarah Palin.

Several post election polls have shown Sarah Palin as the Presidential nominee of choice for Republicans in 2012, but a new national survey from Public Policy Polling suggests that such a contest would result in the largest popular vote blowout since George McGovern ran against Richard Nixon in 1972.

Obama leads Palin 55-35 in the hypothetical contest. He has an 89-7 advantage among Democrats. Among Republican he trails 66-17. Last year exit polls showed Obama winning only 9% of the Republican vote, so it appears Palin would lose a lot more voters within her party than McCain did.

It’s also worth noting that while only 3% of Democrats are undecided about who they would support in an Obama/Palin contest, 18% of Republicans are, an indication of even more hesitation with some GOP voters about supporting Palin if she ended up as the nominee.

“It’s impossible to say what twists and turns the American political landscape will see between now and 2012,” said Dean Debnam, President of Public Policy Polling. “What is clear is that four months ago John McCain lost to Barack Obama by seven points nationally, and at this point in time Sarah Palin trails Obama by a much greater 20 point margin. Obama would easily win more than 400 electoral votes in a contest against Palin at this point in time.”

But wait, there’s more!

“Palin is viewed negatively by 50% of voters in the country with just 39% holding a positive opinion of her. 69% of Republicans have a favorable view of her, while only 11% of Democrats do.”


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this same story just appeared 12 hours ago on the local Iowa wires http://www.kcci.com/politics/19005326/detail.html
1 posted on 03/25/2009 4:19:01 AM PDT by lewisglad
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To: lewisglad
It is beyond stupid for the GOP to continue to have 2 blue states have such strong influence in choosing its candidates.

But of course, this goes back to the fact that Mike Steele continues to refuse to resign and make room for someone who can help the GOP to fix this idiocy.

2 posted on 03/25/2009 4:20:53 AM PDT by pnh102 (Save America - Ban Ethanol Now!)
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To: lewisglad; SolidWood; euram
I'd be careful with this story...it could be that Axelrod, Plouffe, and Emmanuel commissioned the poll to put out disinformation about Palin's intentions, put pressure on her, and maybe irritate the good folks of Iowa with these early polls just to diminish her influence.

There's a well-organized, well-funded, multi-front, completely underhanded Rat campaign to knock Governor Palin out of National politics NOW so that she can't challenge Obama in 2012.

I would not at all be surprised if this auto-polling is part of that campaign.

3 posted on 03/25/2009 4:24:29 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: pnh102

It is beyond stupid that we should ever listen to anyone from a state as blue as yours is.
/s


4 posted on 03/25/2009 4:28:04 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: pnh102

Close the primaries, and hold them all on the same day.


5 posted on 03/25/2009 4:30:01 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?

Couldn’t agree more!


6 posted on 03/25/2009 4:42:18 AM PDT by SolidWood (Palin: "We do not want to becomes slaves of Washington.")
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To: lewisglad

McCain actually finished 4th in Iowa, so I guess the maxim is “4 tickets out of Iowa, 2 out of New Hampshire.”


7 posted on 03/25/2009 4:52:25 AM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: pnh102
The fact that Iowa and New Hampshire are blue states has nothing to do with the types of candidates Republicans choose.

In Iowa, Republicans go for very conservative candidates and absolutely prolife. Anyone without a strong prolife position is going to have extremely tough sledding.

8 posted on 03/25/2009 5:02:33 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma (When the righteous rule, the people rejoice; when the wicked rule the people mourn. Proverbs 29;2)
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To: lewisglad; scrabblehack

Bill Clinton finished fourth in Iowa in 1992.


9 posted on 03/25/2009 5:03:54 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
The fact that Iowa and New Hampshire are blue states has nothing to do with the types of candidates Republicans choose.

Disagree...Democrats and 'Independents' voting in the NH primary were instrumental in reviving McCain's DOA campaign, and sparked the momentum that carried him to victory.

10 posted on 03/25/2009 6:58:48 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: lewisglad
I like Sarah a lot. I really do.

After the hatchet job the media did on her during the campaign, though, I'm not 100% sure she'd be electable at the top of the ticket.

Of course, once Obama gets done with the country, Republicans likely could run a Cigar Store Indian and expect 48+% of the vote.

11 posted on 03/25/2009 6:59:25 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Dr. Sivana
That's mistake #2 in the article...

Makes me wonder....

12 posted on 03/25/2009 7:00:14 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

I’d be careful with this story anyway, since it comes from the disgusting, vitriolic “mudflats” anti-Palin blog.


13 posted on 03/25/2009 8:25:34 AM PDT by SolidWood (Palin: "We do not want to becomes slaves of Washington.")
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To: lewisglad; All
UPDATE:

The auto-polls were unauthorized!

Statement from SarahPAC on unauthorized polls

14 posted on 03/25/2009 2:28:09 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Well, “Uncommitted” finished 2nd, so it could still be argued that there were 3 tickets out of Iowa. Good point though.


15 posted on 03/25/2009 7:25:08 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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