[curiosity]

Neither form by itself is adequate to prove Hawaiian ancestry. Neither form by itself is adequate to prove Hawaiian ancestry.

LOL. I'm trying to change the subject? LOL.

Since when were we talking about ancestry? We're talking about birth.

Any court, and any government agency accepts the COLB as proof of birth in the United States.

The only reason the Dept. of Home lands doesn't accept the COLB is because it needs proof of ancestry, not just birth.

That is a fact that you are unable to refute, my friend.

[TChad]

This thread is getting too pathetic.

The only reason the Dept. of Home lands doesn't accept the COLB is because it needs proof of ancestry, not just birth.

Then why aren't the parents of the applicant for the lease permitted to provide COLBs? Their ancestry is not in question.

You have presented no proof that COLBs always show the correct birth locations for children born to Hawaiian mothers abroad. You don't answer the question of why Obama has not provided the best available documentation of his birth, which is the long-form birth certificate or another document that underlies the COLB.

Anyone interested in this issue should start here.

I would love to be convinced that Obama was born in Hawaii, but your gratuitous assertions don't get me there.