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To: Beckwith
No, that's not what she said. She said -- “After my review and based on my years of experience, I can state with certainty that the COLB presented on the Internet by the various groups, which include the ‘Daily Kos,’ the Obama Campaign, ‘Factcheck.org’ and others cannot be relied upon as genuine.”

I know what she said. And she's not saying anything more than what I have summarized her as having said. A photograph or scanned image of a document can't be used to authenticate the document itself. And again, that's not the same as saying that the photograph or scanned image is not a genuine photograph or scanned image of the document.

And that is the issue at hand -- Obama's attorney's are using THAT EXACT scanned image as their evidence that Obama is eligible for the job.

Actually they've only just mentioned it in passing, as their motions to dismiss have all been based on standing. And when the courts decide on issues of standing, they do so with the assumption that the plaintiff's claims are all true.

Obama's attorney's even refer to it as a "birth certificate," which they know it's not.

Why do you think they are knowingly presenting false evidence to the court? Why do you think they are attempting to perpetrate a fraud on the court?


Throughout Berg's initial lawsuit, he referred to it as Obama's "Certificate of Live Birth" even though it is a "Certification of Live Birth."

...a Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) was placed on Obama’s campaign website. However, as posted all over the internet, three (3) independent Document Forensic Experts performed extensive Forensic testing on the Certificate of Live Birth posted on Obama’s campaign website. The Forensic Expert findings were the Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) was in fact a forgery. It was further discovered that this original Certificate of Live Birth which had been altered and forged was issued to Maya Casandra Soetoro, born in 1970. Maya Kasandra Soetoro is Obama’s half sister who was born in Indonesia and her birth was later registered in Hawaii.


Why do you think Berg knowingly presented false evidence to the court? Why do you think Berg was attempting to perpetrate a fraud on the court?

You have more opinions than most on this forum. Why do you think Obama is fighting the release of his bona fides with such vigor? What do you think he is hiding?

How can any opinion of mine have any relevance as to why Obama is or isn't doing something? He's doing what he's doing or not doing for his own reasons and no opinion of mine can possibly determine what Obama's actual reasons are.

What exactly are you looking for? Are you looking for the real reason Obama is doing what he's doing or not, or are you just looking for something, anything, that you can fit conveniently into some preconceived belief?

My opinion is the latter. But does that opinion have anything to do with with what your actual reasons are?


64 posted on 02/27/2009 1:48:01 PM PST by Michael Michael
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To: Michael Michael
You have more opinions than most on this forum. Why do you think Obama is fighting the release of his bona fides with such vigor? What do you think he is hiding?

What exactly are you looking for?

I'm looking for a straight answer to a straight question.

I haven't seen so much dancing since West Side Story.
65 posted on 02/27/2009 3:22:39 PM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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