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To: ADReditor

If you believe a state can withdraw from the Union you are barking up the wrong tree.

Federal funding does not come from “the states” it comes from American citizens.


3 posted on 02/11/2009 4:35:04 PM PST by arrogantsob
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To: arrogantsob

What?!

Alexander Hamilton wrote in Federalist No. 33 on January 3, 1788, “If the federal government should overpass the just bounds of its authority and make a tyrannical use of its powers, the people, whose creature it is, must appeal to the standard they have formed, and take such measures to redress the injury done to the Constitution as the exigency may suggest and prudence justify.”

It was universally understood by the Framers——and the State governments that ratified the Constitution——that the States were the supreme governments and that the federal government was the subserviant, limited agent of the States, authorized to carry out only the specific and enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution. If the President wanted to Proclaim something (especially something not specifically authorized in the Constitution), he had to ask the Governors or legislatures of the States for their approval and assistance.

“The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation and foreign commerce. ... The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives and liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement and prosperity of the State.” —James Madison, author of the Constitution, in Federalist Paper No. 45.

“It is not by the consolidation, or concentration, of powers, but by their distribution that good government is effected.” —Thomas Jefferson

..But ambitious encroachments of the federal government, on the authority of the State governments, would not excite the opposition of a single State, or of a few States only. They would be signals of general alarm. Every government would espouse the common cause. A correspondence would be opened. Plans of resistance would be concerted. One spirit would animate and conduct the whole. The same combinations, in short, would result from an apprehension of the federal, as was produced by the dread of a foreign, yoke; and unless the projected innovations should be voluntarily renounced, the same appeal to a trial of force would be made in the one case as was made in the other. But what degree of madness could ever drive the federal government to such an extremity?” —James Madison, from Federalist Paper No. 46

“I, George Washington, do further declare, that because the people of Massachusetts have perpetrated this brazen treason, all their rights are forthwith revoked. Of course, if any Massachusetts resident disavows his state’s dastardly decision, and swears an oath of loyalty to the federal government, his rights shall be restored. Such cases excepted, federal soldiers should feel free to loot any Massachusetts home. Crops not seized for army provisions should be destroyed without regards to the needs of the rebels and their families. After all, war is hell.


21 posted on 02/11/2009 5:50:19 PM PST by Idabilly
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To: arrogantsob

“If you believe a state can withdraw from the Union you are barking up the wrong tree.

Federal funding does not come from “the states” it comes from American citizens”

Let us consider the argument relied on to support this view.

Great reliance is placed upon the words of the preamble: “We, the people of the United States,”

Let’s see if that holds water?

Declarations of Mr. Madison, in the Federalist, No. 39. Speaking of the ratifications by the States, he says: “This assent and ratification is to be given by the people, not as individuals composing an entire nation, but as composing the distinct and independent States to which they respectively belong. * * * Each State, in ratifying the Constitution, is considered as a sovereign body, independent of all others, and only to be bound by its own voluntary act.”


25 posted on 02/11/2009 6:16:29 PM PST by Idabilly
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To: arrogantsob
Federal funding does not come from “the states” it comes from American citizens.

I have never understood........why states would be happy about sending a dollar and receiving back only 77%.

Baffling, you make our laws or you won't get any money back......then keep the money!

46 posted on 02/12/2009 6:35:34 AM PST by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing.....except not doing it sooner!)
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