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Porkulus Package Includes Medical Rationing
Start Thinking Right ^ | February 11, 2009 | Michael Eden

Posted on 02/11/2009 7:44:04 AM PST by Michael Eden

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To: Michael Eden

Call your elected leaders and give them an earful.

I just left a message on Boxer’s voicemail and talked to a Feinstein aid.

I haven’t been able to get to RINOs Susan Collins, Arlen Specter, or Olympia Snowe in days. But I want to tell them that I plan to send money to their primary opponents if they vote for this POS.


21 posted on 02/11/2009 8:30:42 AM PST by Michael Eden
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To: Michael Eden

The killing of seniors has been going on, surreptitiously, for years. About ten years ago, I received a call from an emergency room doctor in NJ, where my mother was in the Methodist Manor. He said that she had had a massive brain stem stroke and would not recover. He wanted permission to put her on a morphine drip and remove the breathing tube. The doctor had already called all the family on the east coast, but they were all at church, and my sister’s eleven year old son, said no.

I said no, also, not until I see for myself. The doctor argued with me, telling me that my mother was 89 years old and had lived a good long life, that the precious medical dollars needed be reserved for younger more vital people. I still said, wait until I get there.

The next day, as I stood at my mother’s bedside, I found her bruised badly, up and down her arms and both arms tied to boards and restrained. I spoke to my mother and she immediately tried to wake up and respond. I told the nurse that she wasn’t in a coma and asked why she was bruised. The nurse said that she had been trying to pull out the breathing tube and the IV and that they had to restrain her. She was drugged, so she was having trouble opening her eyes, but otherwise she was ok. She did have some problems with her speech, but the final diagnosis was that she did not have a stroke, at all.


22 posted on 02/11/2009 8:32:17 AM PST by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: Eva
They also included 800 million dollars to combat obesity and smoking. I’m not sure what that means, but you can be sure that obesity and smoking will disqualify anyone for any by-pass surgery. Smoker? Over weight? Drop dead.

In the UK, those people can't get health care. The health costs got too high, so the government had to choose who will live and who will die.

Welcome to Obomas America, folks.

23 posted on 02/11/2009 9:01:57 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Eva
The killing of seniors has been going on, surreptitiously, for years.

My sister in law is a nurse. She says the doctors who support "eliminating the useless eaters" (socialists) refer to them as "Exit patients". They're considered a "nuisance."

24 posted on 02/11/2009 9:06:09 AM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Eva

Eva,
I’m so sorry for your mother’s suffering. Unnecessary suffering!

And this is often the way it happens in Europe: under the radar, and with plausible deniability.

The government doesn’t “force” doctors to do this kind of crap in socialized medicine. It just sets up the rules and tilts the playing field so that they have little choice but to make life and death decisions on the basis of their own bottom line.

The Hippocratic Oath used to say:
I will prescribe regimens for the good of my patients according to my ability and my judgment and never do harm to anyone.

I will not give a lethal drug to anyone if I am asked, nor will I advise such a plan; and similarly I will not give a woman a pessary to cause an abortion.

But I will preserve the purity of my life and my arts.

I will not cut for stone, even for patients in whom the disease is manifest; I will leave this operation to be performed by practitioners, specialists in this art.

In every house where I come I will enter only for the good of my patients, keeping myself far from all intentional ill-doing and all seduction and especially from the pleasures of love with women or with men, be they free or slaves.

But the AMA and socialist doctors didn’t like the restrictions against abortion and euthanasia, so they altered it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath

The more these depraved people “redefine” morality, the more evil society becomes.


25 posted on 02/11/2009 9:07:15 AM PST by Michael Eden
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To: concerned about politics

When I visited my mother in the intensive care unit at JFK hospital in Cherry Hill, NJ, there were other patients in the same unit, begging their families to get them out of that hospital. My mother had said the same thing about treatment that she had received there, on previous occasions, but that is where the home sent patients.

When she went back to a room on the regular floor, the nurse in charge told me that she was going to send my mother back to the Methodist Manor, immediately, because she would receive better care, there.


26 posted on 02/11/2009 9:16:07 AM PST by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: Eva

It sounds like you’ve got an article to write yourself.

You’ve got a powerful story to address what these cockroaches are doing.

The Nazis and others referred to “useless eaters.” And in our throw-away society that has done away with God and therefore done away with the Imago Dei and the dignity of human life, we’ve done much the same.

It’s sad to go to the permanent nursing care facilities and see how little attention our seniors get. And that’s in places where they AREN’T being murdered (just warehoused).

I’ve got to leave for a while, so I won’t be able to leave any more comments. But thanks for sharing your powerful story, Eva. And God bless you and yours.


27 posted on 02/11/2009 9:31:45 AM PST by Michael Eden
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To: long hard slogger; FormerACLUmember; Harrius Magnus; hocndoc; parousia; Hydroshock; skippermd; ...
Socialized Medicine aka Universal Health Care PING LIST

FReepmail me if you want to be added to or removed from this ping list.


28 posted on 02/12/2009 12:20:54 PM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: Michael Eden; LucyT; ExTexasRedhead; socialismisinsidious; bamahead; FormerACLUmember; Yaelle; ...
The American Medical Association has been drooling over European-style socialized medicine for years.

You're absolutely right on that one.

The reason is that, contrary to popular belief, the AMA is no longer an organization which represents the interests of the nation's private medical practitioners.

It would rather collect massive receipts from sale of its coding software which government will mandate for single payer electronic billing from all doctor's offices (and hospitals). In other words, the AMA has been living well at the expense of the doctors it claims to represent, and stands to improve its finances even more as the left pushes toward mandated electronic single payer billing requiring AMA-copyrighted software.

29 posted on 02/12/2009 2:51:39 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

Has anyone asked the corrupt Elitist in the US Congress and the Messiah where they will be getting their health care and if the American people can decide what tests they will get???


30 posted on 02/12/2009 2:58:04 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Has anyone asked the corrupt Elitist in the US Congress and the Messiah where they will be getting their health care and if the American people can decide what tests they will get??

Obviously, the health care provisions of Porkulus were stuck in there in a sneaky manner, so no one knew about them until it was just about a done deal. Chances are, though, that none of the idiots who voted for it would have changed their minds even if they had known, since they wouldn't want to tee off the Messiah.

As far as where the elitists will be getting their health care is concerned, you can bet that their ultimate deal will be to retain their current gold-plate plans, while herding everyone else into the socialized program for the masses. The masses will have no choices that bureaucrats will not approve of.

31 posted on 02/12/2009 3:11:06 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

I certainly agree with all of that, but I would also offer that the “elite” medical schools are so dominated by a liberal agenda that it is simply unreal.

Liberals want big government.

And they of course want to cynically profit from the big government they want to impose on others.

I believe (just my own theory) that a lot of liberal elites truly believe that power and wealth is theirs by right of ontological superiority over the huddling masses. They view themselves as the “Great souled men” of the Classical period and extolled by Nietzsche. We literally owe these people our wealth and subservience so they can rule over us in luxury and comfort.


32 posted on 02/12/2009 3:35:54 PM PST by Michael Eden
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I called both Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein and told them they’d better get the same crappy medical care as everyone else so they can get cut off and die with the rest of us.

Does that count?


33 posted on 02/12/2009 3:37:22 PM PST by Michael Eden
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To: Michael Eden; justiceseeker93; freekitty; SouthTexas; celtic gal; BossLady; Brad's Gramma

Great call!!!


34 posted on 02/12/2009 3:48:12 PM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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We must change the ASSHATS in Congress and fix it so that they are TERM LIMITED and have to live by the same LAWS and Medical Benefits that are available to the people. NO Special Class for them!

We must have TERM LIMITS so we can control these ASSHATS in CONGRESS!!!

35 posted on 02/12/2009 4:14:49 PM PST by Colonial Warrior (Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction.)
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To: Colonial Warrior

Colonial Warrior,

Are they taking volunteers to operate that boot gizmo that kicks Congressmen out of office? Because I’d really like to be the one who used that thing.


36 posted on 02/13/2009 7:17:04 AM PST by Michael Eden
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To: Michael Eden

As an epilogue, though Dr Kennedy is gone, the momentum of his work continues today. The turnaround for the man in the video referenced below was a result of Dr Kennedy’s Evangelism Explosion. If you are familiar with EE, you will recognize the question at 2:20 into the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y77fUFUfk9I


37 posted on 02/15/2009 11:07:44 AM PST by poindexters brother
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