We agree. Good retrievers and good herd dogs are difficult to breed for, and the required instincts are quickly lost if bred for anything other than work. It MAY be that well bred Labs and Border Collies are more than the average owner can handle, but that is a good reason for the average owner to get a mutt from the pound. I have a well bred Border Collie who loves to play, but who also loves to sleep on our feet.
. . . but I saw the BC in the herding group at Westminster, and . . . my gosh! What a perfumed, fluffy, blow-dried, snow-white and enameled-black Prissy Face! It was a horrible sight.
I think I'm glad I missed the Labs . . . . funny that a Sussex won BIS, when's the last time THAT happened?