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To: mkjessup

You said — “SHOW US THE DAMN BIRTH CERTIFICATE, you SOB!”

It is becoming “oh so apparent” that Obama is “showing everyone” that he only has to do what all the other candidates have been required to do in the past. Nothing more than that.

Of course, I don’t know why people can’t “get that” — as that’s just the normal thing that candidates have been required to do.

As I’ve said, it’s clear that the vetting system has never required the kind of documentation that is being asked for now. If that is desired, then it will take a state law (or a Constitutional Amendment) to require certain kinds and specific documentation, written into the statute, itself, in order to require these things...


36 posted on 02/06/2009 3:55:05 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler; curiosity; Lurking Libertarian; FreeManN; Calpernia; hoosiermama
do what all the other candidates have been required to do in the past

This line of reasoning, though convenient as it is misleading, is obfuscatory of the numerous contradictions and loopholes in the 0bama story.

Other candidates have perhaps done as little as show their American passport, but in Barry's case, wouldn't it raise an eyebrow to know that noone named Barack Obama carried a US passport before he was given his diplomatic US passport upon becoming a US Senator? This despite his claims and knowable information that Barry traveled abroad extensively as an adult? In the words of the immortal Shrek (or is that Mike Myers?), "Doesn't that bother you?"

The way the 57th State of Hawaii has been known to give out CsOLB, foreigners have been known to have shown that they can absolutely hide where the identified person was born. "Doesn't that bother you?"

Barry's produced COLB has been shown by multiple document experts to contain many features of forged and altered documents. Apparently Barry is not new to submitting false and misleading documents, as this apparently happened--and was even confirmed indirectly by Barry's own memoirs--with his bar exam and his purported Selective Service registration, which has been conclusively shown to be an altered document, with what purports to be his signature. "Doesn't that bother you?"

Barry's immediate family members--with at best a disincentive to lie--have claimed they were present when--or otherwise know that--Barry was born in Kenya, which would of course eliminate him from eligibility for the presidency. "Doesn't that bother you?"

There is evidence that after the age of majority Barry purposefully got a passport that required his forswearing any allegiance to the US. "Doesn't that bother you?"

There are people for whom the implications of such cognitive dissonance threaten the US Constitution, which should, of course, be considered the foundation of our legal system. If one knocks out one of the building blocks that hold up the building, there could be cracks, severe cracks, and the whole building could come down at some point. One ought to take due care about such things if one cares about maintenance of the building and doesn't relish dramatic civilian upheaval. Or don't they teach that in publik skoolz anymore?

There are people who, while claiming to be curious, are decidedly incurious when it comes to all the above matters. One very reasonably questions the intelligence and nature of the information upon which such people work, even as one can easily imagine the time-honored financial compensation system under which such have lost all fealty to "competing systems".

There are people--amply represented on FR--to whom these Constitutional issues seemingly mean little, are quickly torn down, to become fodder for rationalizations of all type on the anti-Constitutional side of the issue. These people's indifference, ignorance and willing dismissal of all such impacts quite correctly gets Freepers' "shorts in a bunch."

In no other eligibility for the presidency case has a candidate spent hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees to hide evidence which could dispel these counter-evidences. That fact, particularly in the context of all the other problems, shows Zero to be anything but transparent, and hence a liar to his much-trumpeted claim to the contrary. These troublesome things snowball by 0's and its followers' behaviors, to be of great concern, only reasonably. If Barry hadn't had $900M to spend kicking up an obfuscatory cloud, we might have wondered how all this logical dissonance could exist. But, 0 did have such a treasure trove, and it obviously values the prize.

In light of cases, e.g., GHWB, or W, where there was never a doubt about qualification, where there were no such contradictions, no particular counter-evidence, and yea, a mountain of confirmatory evidence, no swarm of paid Alinsky-esque obfuscators, it might indeed have been reasonable to accept one's passport credentials. In Barry's case, with all these troubling factors present, the One simply needs to halt the fight against Constitutional requirements, drop the $10 on Hawai'i, and do the right thing that everyone else might move on to do the right things as well.

HF

62 posted on 02/07/2009 1:42:14 AM PST by holden
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