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To: Kevmo

What I learned is that the Constitution means nothing as long as the people vote for an unqualified candidate, the electoral college ignores it, the congress ignores it, and the supreme court swears him in.

In other words, the Constitution is just a piece of useless paper. I’ll remember that. My new attitude towards everyone and everything is, “Yeah? What are you going to do about it. Screw you.”


15 posted on 01/20/2009 9:55:31 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: CodeToad

In other words, the Constitution is just a piece of useless paper. I’ll remember that.
***So will I. I’m not sure I see it in such stark terms, but I’m sure we’re close in our viewpoints.

My new attitude towards everyone and everything is, “Yeah? What are you going to do about it. Screw you.”
***I can identify with the anger behind your attitude, though it’s unhealthy. The social contract between the governed and the government is called into question. There’s been a violation of trust by those we entrust to uphold the constitution. It’s like the night watchman who sees an army approaching the city and wakes up his family & skeedaddles without telling anyone else. He looked after his own interests first (human nature, kinda understandable) but then betrayed the trust placed in him (basically treasonous selfishness).


18 posted on 01/20/2009 10:02:17 AM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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To: CodeToad

You said — “What I learned is that the Constitution means nothing as long as the people vote for an unqualified candidate, the electoral college ignores it, the congress ignores it, and the supreme court swears him in.”

When you don’t analyze the situation correctly, you come up with a defeatist attitude like that. It’s like saying that the laws against murder doesn’t mean anything anymore since O.J. “got away with it”....

No, I’m sorry, but the laws against murder are still just as effective as they were before.

Likewise, with this situation, the Constitution is still just as viable now as it was a few years before you ever heard of Obama.

The *analysis* of the problem is that no one knows for sure — “legally speaking” — if Obama violated the provisions of the Constitution in terms of eligibility. There hasn’t been any proof that any court has *adjudicated* and affirmed is legally true. Until that happens, you just don’t know for sure.

And for those who say they *do know for sure* — then, I would ask why a court has not agreed with you? That’s the only *result* that counts, not you or someone else “just knowing so”.

As far as being an “unqualified candidate” — no, the “process” that we’ve always used in the past — Obama *did qualify* under. He and the campaign and the party signed papers with the states affirming that he qualified and they were notarized. That was the same thing that was required of all the other Presidential candidates. So Obama *did qualify* in the same way everyone else had before.

It’s only *in your own mind* that you’re saying that the Constitution is “useless” and not viable any more. It’s not true in real life.

That’s a defeatist attitude resulting from the wrong analysis of the situation.

The Constitution is still there, it’s still valid and nothing has been changed in the Constitution. No provisions have been made void and not usable in the future. It’s all just as valid as it has been.


52 posted on 01/20/2009 1:14:32 PM PST by Star Traveler
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