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To: Non-Sequitur

“And this definition of ‘natural born citizen’ is to be found where?”

Do you always enter discussions where you never bothered to read the link being discussed that gives you answer, Non-Sequitur?

“I find no fault with the introductory clause [S 61 Bill], which is simply declaratory of what is written in the Constitution, that every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen…” - Rep. John Bingham, framer of the 14th Amendment, before The US House of Representatives (March 9, 1866 )

““The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first.” - Chief Justice Waite in Minor v. Happersett (1875)
http:/ / www. law.cornell.edu/supct/html/historics/USSC_CR_0088_0162_ZO.html

There’s plenty more if you want to actually research where they got the terminology from. There’s no doubt after you read Vattel, Bingham, Perkins v. Elg, etc., that the framers obviously didn’t want anyone who was tainted by foreign influence (not having due allegiance to the U.S. and Obama’s father did not) to be able to approach the highest seat in the land.

Obama, Jr. wasn’t even raised here. He was raised in Indonesia. He speaks to Kenyans as his “brothers and sisters”. He faults the U.S. for not helping Kenya enough. He considers himself a citizen of the “world”. He refused to salute his own flag.

Are we getting the picture yet as to WHY the framers knew what they were doing and these idiots in there now couldn’t care less?

Do some homework before you post the same talking point that’s been answered on thousands of blogs already, who did the research for you.


77 posted on 01/18/2009 2:46:18 PM PST by Bronwynn
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To: Bronwynn

NS, by his own admission, lurks these BC threads as an amusement ... he is amused if he can ruffle feathers and insult people until they react to his methods. He trolls along insinuatiing, baiting, denying, etc. playing the Alinskyesque rules for radicals games just to amuse himself. And you had better leave him alone because he is a Jim Robinson protected species at FR right now.


87 posted on 01/18/2009 4:47:35 PM PST by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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