Posted on 01/12/2009 10:07:47 AM PST by Welcome2thejungle
Dr. Joseph Goebbels, the notorious Nazi propaganda minister, once said if you repeat a lie often enough, the people will come to believe it.
One of the biggest lies perpetuated by the DemocRATS in recent years is that "Bush lied, people died" with respects to Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein's WMD programs.
I am currently reading "Shadow Warriors: The Untold Story of Traitors, Saboteurs, and the Party of Surrender" by Kenneth R. Timmerman.
On page 119, Timmerman writes the following:
"In his interim report to a joint session of the House and Senate intelligence committees on October 2, 2003, David Kay emphasized the breathtaking scope of Saddam's weapons programs. The entire country had been a gigantic weapons plant, he said. There were over a hundred major facilities engaged in various phases of the WMD effort, and hundreds more depots where weapons once had been stored. Sophisticated concealment efforts by the Iraqi Intelligence Service (IIS) had succeeded in keeping the most sensitive aspects of Saddam's WMD programs from international inspectors over the years."
Timmerman then goes on to list the findings of the Kay Report in specific detail.
But to this day, the majority of the American people have been sold on the DemocRAT crock of crap that there was a "failure" in our intelligence reports and the liberation of Iraq was a big mistake, or worse, deliberate lies from the Bush administration.
Now we know who was telling the real lies. But it's too late. The political damage to the GOP accomplished in the 2006 and 2008 elections has succeeded in placing the radical left in charge of the executive and legislative branches of the federal government. Anyone who followed BHO's policy pronouncements during the campaign knows full well what he plans on doing to our military.
We did not give Saddam WMDs. Where did you get such information and what kind of WMDs are you alleging?
best book of 2008....
All conservatives are aware of this.
Few moderates are and most Democrats couldn’t care less.
Bush II simply could not connect the dots for the benefit of the unwashed masses. Unfortunately they could vote however.
JIM LEHRER: So, as of now at least, you have found no weapons of mass destruction, correct?
DAVID KAY: That is correct. We have found no actual weapons at this stage, although we're not foreclosing any files or any possibilities. We're still at work.
JIM LEHRER: Is there any evidence at this point as to whether or not Iraq had weapons of mass destruction at the time of the beginning of the Iraq War?
DAVID KAY: There are indications, there are Iraqis who say that but there is nothing yet that rises to the level of evidence. This is, though, a continuing, important and continuing investigation.
I’ve said this several times before, and I still suspect that the reason Bush bought into the “no-WMD” story so early and stuck to it was simple: it was more important to discourage Al Queda from sending teams out into desert depots looking for them.
Remember that the Bush admin didn’t just buy-in to that story, they *sold* it earnestly from the very beginning. There were even a few stories of WMD stocks being found in the initial invasion but these stories were squelched and denied immediately.
It’s also possible that there are still ongoing searches happening in some locations around Iraq. I recall Iraq being described not as having many ammo depots, but basically the whole country *being* an ammo depot with literally tens of thousands of locations to examine. It could take years to fully check out the whole place. And yet... the story was sold right after the invasion that there was nothing to be found. How could they have known this? They couldn’t. But it wasn’t worth the risk that there might be something out there to be found and having lots of bad guys out there trying to get ahead of you.
Just a thought.
Add to this that there was that interesting little raid by “Israelis” deep into Syria’s Bekaa Valley a while back that incinerated lots of stuff... and Syria was amazingly quiet about the whole affair. A nuclear plant? Really? Anything else there perhaps that the Syrians didn’t want known to have been there? And maybe if we’d shut up they would too? Another thought.
Quite....in WW11 Churchill allowed the city of Coventry to be bombed, although he knew it was going to happen because the German code had been cracked. To evacuate Coventry would have alerted the Germans that their code was compromised.
You will not get your answer.
Because of the Carter Administration’s mess up in Iran and the turmoil created there Iraq thought it would be a good time to attack and take over Iran’s southern oil fields. This was in the early 80’s. Iran counter-attacked with such overwhelming force, the Iran army’s “human wave” that there was a real threat that Iran would defeat and conquer Iraq and be in control of vast middle eastern oil. This could not be allowed to happen so the Reagan Administration armed and supported Iraq enough so the two nations would fight to a stalemate. BRILLIANT!
The reason the Reagan Administration found it necessary to arm and support Iraq was because of Carter’s mishandling of Iran and America’s ally the Shah.
Keep in mind too that Chemical and Bio weapons are never the sort of thing that you ever want to heavily stockpile in advance. Nobody would do that. You make enough to get you started if you need to use them, and then you make the rest as you need it.
Large stockpiles are a logistics and storage nightmare. These agents also have a shelf-life. Containers have a shelf-life. This stuff is a genuine hassle to have on hand, and generally you’d make up just enough for some quick action. Having a lot of it to take constant care of is a bigger problem than it is worth.
You are exactly correct. I would like to add, however, that Dr. Goebbels shared Lenin’s cynicism toward the value of propoganda. Goebbels wrote:
“That propaganda is good leads to success, and that is bad which fails to achieve the desired result”
Goebbels also wrote, “It is not propaganda’s task to be intelligent, its task is to lead to success.”
Source: wikipedia
Think of the left’s mindless slogans; some of it crap from the 60s like “hey, hey, ho, ho...cause du jour has to go.” And then of course their recent mindless little rhyme, “Bush lied, people died.”
For whatever reasons, the Bush administration just refused to emphasize this. They could have had a home run some many times and they let it go right by. Confusion, Alzheimer’s, or whatever I just have always found it odd.
I know the history and the USA did not arm Iraq with WMDs. Ever!
That is a great example.
I am certain the War on Terror has occasionally required similar tragic decisions. We may never know how many.
For some reason that escapes me President Bush and others high in our government did not seem to want the public to know the truth about WMDs in Iraq or the extent Sadaam was involved with encouraging/supporting terrorism against the U.S. It makes no sense to me, might have been a failure to communicate the truth or unwillingness to stand up to the media and critics of the war- or a real desire to sweep it all under the rug- but for what reason??
That is correct. The US did not arm Iraq with WMD. The mistake we made was unwittingly send them the germs that they ended up turning into WMD, i.e. anthrax, botulinum toxin, etc.. They would have ended up getting it elsewhere, but it is what it is. We did not arm Iraq with WMD!
The CDC (Center for Disease Control) sent the Iraq Department of Agriculture the anthrax. The USA sends anthrax to a lot of developing countries for live stock research purposes.
GWB is the precise opposite of BHO. GWB hates tooting his own horn. BHO, well...
At the time I was reading a ton of books about Saddam’s weapons program. I don’t remember all of their titles; I know one was Saddam’s Bombmaker. All sources reported a thorough system of making and procuring weapons of mass destruction.
While it was true that sometimes the generals or scientists would LIE to Saddam about what they had, because bad news would bring death to the messenger, they had quite the array of preparations for nukes again, and every kind of chemical and biological weapon imaginable.
Saddam was being ripped off financially daily, because his “diplomats” were in Europe paying 100s of times as much as they should have for ingredients and supplies to make weapons, with both the supplier and the “diplomats” receiving HUGE kickbacks.
WHY were these facts never available to the public? The world’s press is useless. Maybe books will be better sources than news in the future. Only the literate will be able to judge truths.
That is correct. There was also a private company involved, but I forget the name.
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