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To: avacado

He has shown a ‘Certificate of Live Birth’, some are arguing it is a fake, others are arguing that it is not a valid Birth Certificate as Hawaii will issue that certificate for anyone born overseas. The COLB is a ‘short form’ birth certificate instead of the long form hospital certificate you are probably used to seeing.

Hawaii does recognize a COLB versus the long form birth certificate in court proceedings and for items such as passports (I used a similar ‘short form’ certificate from Arizona for getting my passport).

Because it doesn’t specifically state the place of birth, some are arguing it is not valid to confirm ‘natural born citizenship’ status as British Common law at the time of the framing of the Constitution required both parents be citizens and born on national soil to be ‘natural born’ by definition versus just citizen...


10 posted on 01/05/2009 2:19:29 PM PST by mnehring
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To: mnehrling
Because it doesn’t specifically state the place of birth,

Yes it does. Have you not even looked at it? It clearly states Honolulu as the place of birth.

21 posted on 01/05/2009 3:27:55 PM PST by curiosity
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