[dascallie]

Good lord, can we ever get this right.

The Hawaiian officials DID say that they have verified they have a “birth certificate” for Obama on file.

HOWEVER:

What they DID NOT and have NEVER said is that the birth certificate says Obama was BORN in Hawaii. They have NEVER —to date— made the statement he was BORN in Hawaii.

This is interesting, since in the 1960s, Hawaii allowed children of foreign birth that resided in Hawaii to register “COLBs” —probably for reasons of simplified administrative requirement, ie, registering for school, special services, permission forms etc. We understand Obama’s indonesian born half-sister Maya has a COLB on file in Hawaii too.

The COLB ( Certification of Live Birth) is NOT a birth certificate and is generated after the birth as an administrative record of someone having been “born”.

The information on the COLB is *supposed* to be taken from an actual “birth certificate” but does have not the level of detail, therefore ‘proof’—a “birth certificate” shows hosptal, physician, physician’s SIGNATURE, baby’s weight, length, mother’s and father’s name and their SIGNATURES. Colbs do not have this level of detail.

Bottom line Obama wil NOT produce his BC, he will not SPEAK of his BC, he will not touch the subject with a 10 ft pole ( he would further perjure himself?). Remember McCain willing produced his and answered all questions surrounding it.

Obama has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to block his BC release.

[TheCipher]

I know all that. It is just the same old line the trolls trot out. Actually I think he was referring to the statement made by the clerk about the COLB, not the official statement made by the Director about the BC on file. They always like to quote the first part of the clerks statement ( actually it isn't even an offical statement, just an email ).

When the birth certificate arrived from the Obama campaign it confirmed his name as the other documents already showed it. Still, we took an extra step: We e-mailed it to the Hawaii Department of Health, which maintains such records, to ask if it was real. “It’s a valid Hawaii state birth certificate,” spokesman Janice Okubo told us.

But they always leave out the second part :

“When we looked at that image you guys sent us, our registrar, he thought he could see pieces of the embossed image through it.” Still, she acknowledges: “I don’t know that it’s possible for us to even say beyond a doubt what the image on the site represents.”

Therefore they never said it was genuine.