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To: metmom; js1138
"So what if it turns out God really did supernaturally create all life spontaneously as is recorded in Scripture? That doesn't change what we DO know about genetics and variation within species. Neither does it negate the research being done nor the progress made in science that have used THOSE concepts."

It's interesting that you say this, for this is exactly what is recommended to be done, if not actually done. It's not that God is excluded from consideration as an explanation for the existence of things, it's just that in order to study how things relate to, and affect each other, we have to start from the point where God has left off.

Now here, from earlier in the same post, these are also your words.

"Having scientists demand that God not be considered as even existing is excluding God from the debate. Same as demanding that even if He did exist, He does not play any role in nature now."

Essentially, what we do these days is to avoid the flowery and pious phraseology of a bygone era, in order to more simply and directly get to the point.

"By the Grace of God, and the Mercy of His Provenance, we assemble here to examine the deceased carcass of Drosophila Melanogaster, which being the sad remains of a dutiful servant of the Lord."
But I would not altogether suggest that God has entirely left the playing field. By my lights, the last time God left a possible fingerprint was but a few years ago, as he and a researcher were having a quiet walk on the beach.

That researcher came back from his walk with the image of PCR seared in his mind, and the world of DNA research has not been the same since.

841 posted on 01/06/2009 5:07:02 PM PST by NicknamedBob (If you translate Pi into base 43 notation, it will contain this statement.)
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To: NicknamedBob
Love the post. I have often wondered as well how Science that did try to incorporate God would sound....

“By the Grace of God, his holy Protein X interacts with the sacred DNA sequence Y to transcribe gene Z in response to hormone A, so long as God wishes it to be so, under the observation of his humble servant, in accordance with God's will”.

Was my rather unimaginative attempt.

But I like your...

“By the Grace of God, and the Mercy of His Provenance, we assemble here to examine the deceased carcass of Drosophila Melanogaster, which being the sad remains of a dutiful servant of the Lord.”

846 posted on 01/06/2009 5:36:11 PM PST by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?)
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