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To: PurpleMountains

As a practising Christian I really don’t see why people have their knickers in a twist over “Darwinism”.

Evolution an Creation are ideas that comfortably coexist. Evolution explains how things happened, and Creation explains why.

Replace the seven literal days with seven epochs, and adjust Noah’s flood to be a large-but-local event, and replace the “by chance” aspect of the Evolutionary methodology with “by the Holy Ghost” and everything makes perfect sense.


11 posted on 01/04/2009 5:50:35 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

I too held your belief rather strongly but my view is beginning to change and I found it interesting that a theologian who I respect deeply has changed a lifetime belief concerning the 6 day creation:

http://reformationfaithtoday.com/2008/07/10/rc-sproul-and-six-day-creation/

A noted evangelical, R C Sproul, has announced a conversion from having previously accepted the theory of evolution as valid science. He now accepts both the Biblical and scientific evidence that the world was created in 6 literal 24-hour days and possibly as recently as around 6,000 years ago.

R C Sproul is the author of some 60 Christian books. He has now stated on the record:

For most of my teaching career, I considered the ‘framework hypothesis’ to be a possibility. But I have now changed my mind. I now hold to a literal six-day creation. Genesis says that God created the universe and everything in it in six twenty-four-hour periods.

The ‘framework hypothesis’ was an attempt to maintain that the Bible was authoritative whilst at the same time denying the six ordinary days of creation. It was first outlined by Arie Noordtzij in 1924. The framework hypothesis holds that Genesis 1 is merely a ‘framework’ into which evolution over hundreds of millions of years can be fitted. Its leading proponents, Meredith Kline and Henri Blocher, have admitted that their adoption of this hypothesis was born of a desperation to fit the Bible into the alleged ‘facts’ of science.


24 posted on 01/04/2009 6:06:56 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: DieHard the Hunter

“Evolution an Creation are ideas that comfortably coexist.”

I could not agree more.

BTW, life w/o twisted knickers is preferable.. ;-)


25 posted on 01/04/2009 6:08:30 AM PST by verity ("Lord, what fools we mortals be!")
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To: DieHard the Hunter
As a practising Christian I really don’t see why people have their knickers in a twist over “Darwinism”. Evolution an Creation are ideas that comfortably coexist. Evolution explains how things happened, and Creation explains why. Replace the seven literal days with seven epochs, and adjust Noah’s flood to be a large-but-local event, and replace the “by chance” aspect of the Evolutionary methodology with “by the Holy Ghost” and everything makes perfect sense.

Except ALLLLL that tracking and protecting of a 'seed' line to Christ mock the theory of a hot steamy primordial pond. There is only one Savior and His name is not Darwin.

56 posted on 01/04/2009 7:03:43 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Replace the seven literal days with seven epochs, and adjust Noah’s flood to be a large-but-local event, and replace the “by chance” aspect of the Evolutionary methodology with “by the Holy Ghost” and everything makes perfect sense.

I'm afraid I must disagree, my friend.

First, if the days in Genesis are cosmological/evolutionary epochs, then plants developed before the Sun, and birds developed before land animals. That doesn't fit with the evolutionary timeline, or any one that could resonably be constructed.

Second, there's a whole list of problems with Noah's flood as a local event...in fact I can probably find said list and post a link. But just for an example, if the flood was strictly local, God could have led Noah and the animals of the Mesopotamian region over some mountains and the problem would be solved.

253 posted on 01/04/2009 3:17:11 PM PST by Mr. Silverback ("[Palin] has not even lived in the Lower 48 since 1987. Come on! Really!" --Polybius)
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