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To: Raycpa

To take your logic to its conclusion, nothing we can see, observe, or test can be trusted, only what we believe God is telling us.

If that’s the reality you live in, it’s no skin off of my nose. But there’s no way to test what God is telling us, either, which sort of leaves you in a logical whirlpool.


1,059 posted on 01/07/2009 6:42:57 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
To take your logic to its conclusion, nothing we can see, observe, or test can be trusted, only what we believe God is telling us.

I took your statements to their logical conclusion. I happen to believe that we can weigh eyewitness testimony and unlike you, i don't believe eyewitness testimony is "lousy". I believe that science has good witnesses and that the religion has good witnesses and that court has good witnesses and each also contain false witnesses.

You know it is a bit frustrating to discuss with you the issue of witnesses and evidence when you do not own your own statements and try to make them mine when I point out to you your own statements contradict your own worldview presumptions. Someone noted that the only eyewitnesses you accept are those who support your opinion and reject those who which contradict your opinion.

1,072 posted on 01/07/2009 7:41:43 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: Dog Gone; Raycpa
"To take your logic to its conclusion, nothing we can see, observe, or test can be trusted, only what we believe God is telling us. If that’s the reality you live in, it’s no skin off of my nose. But there’s no way to test what God is telling us, either, which sort of leaves you in a logical whirlpool."

I think this is called "Solipsism". Only the self can be knowable.

I don't go that far. I believe in "Elipsism", in which you do a lot of what you can call meditation.

It's like the guy who hums "Ommmmmmmmm" only quieter, because you just go "... ... ... ... ..."

1,074 posted on 01/07/2009 7:45:53 PM PST by NicknamedBob (If you translate Pi into base 43 notation, it will contain this statement.)
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