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To: IbJensen

We know the problem. What is the solution? Not everyone can home-school or afford private schools. Maybe Christians need to run for local school boards and state level education jobs. We just let the left take control of the schools and didn’t even put up a fight. And there are still some wonderful, God-fearing, Christian teachers. They just don’t have much support.


3 posted on 01/02/2009 2:51:47 PM PST by nobama08
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To: nobama08

Since the legislators will not move against the godless evil unions, the only thing is a national resistance....withdrawe all kids from all public schools. What we need is a leader to do this.


7 posted on 01/02/2009 2:55:51 PM PST by Rapscallion (Where is Judge Dread when we need him?)
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To: nobama08
What is the solution?

Withholding property taxes results in confiscation.

(Revolution?)

13 posted on 01/02/2009 3:04:14 PM PST by IbJensen (MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE! Next year: famine and communism!)
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To: nobama08

We were able to afford Christian schooling for our children. They both graduated in the top 2% of their college class.

Of course, we drove the same car year after year, didn’t have x-boxes and expensive summer camps, but what we saved on beer and cigarettes, acrylic nail appointments, bass boats, brand name clothing, video games, eating out, and all those other unnecessary items paid the cost.

In my experience, people use the “can’t afford it” excuse to maintain their materialistic lifestyle intact and aren’t as concerned about raising their children well as they profess....basically ...selfishness.

Send your kids to public school 35 hours a week and wonder why you can’t overcome the humanistic godless garbage they learn and adopt...???

Duh


15 posted on 01/02/2009 3:22:11 PM PST by cowdog77 ("Are there any brave men left in Washington, or are they all cowards?")
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To: nobama08
Maybe Christians need to run for local school boards and state level education jobs.

Good idea once their own kids are through Homeschooling and they've got more time to worry about somebody else's kids.
19 posted on 01/02/2009 3:35:44 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Leftist kids say the darndest things!)
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To: nobama08
"What is the solution? Not everyone can home-school or afford private schools. Maybe Christians need to run for local school boards and state level education jobs. We just let the left take control of the schools and didn’t even put up a fight. And there are still some wonderful, God-fearing, Christian teachers. They just don’t have much support."

Well, I don't want to be disagreeable here but anyone should be able to scale back their lifestyle so as to be able to live off one income and have one parent homeschool.

It is really far easier than you think. Out here in Southern California, where the schools can be really, really horrible, in addition to filled with leftist gasbags, there is a huge homeschooling community that helps even the most timid and fearful parent learn how to successfully homeschool.

One of our three has been homeschooled. My wife was terrified at first, but my son had special needs and it was essential that he be pulled out of regular school. [We are blessed financially, and my other two are at a local Christian school.] He struggled in 2nd, 3rd, and 4th grades, and we homeschooled him from 5th through 7th. My wife did a brilliant job. Yes, it was work, but not really that hard.

So, please, don't make the rationalization you made so quickly. It CAN be done. Check it out.

26 posted on 01/02/2009 4:04:30 PM PST by tom h
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To: nobama08
Maybe Christians need to run for local school boards and state level education jobs.

This is NOT the solution!

It is **impossible** to have a culturally, religiously, and politically neutral school. With government schools the most powerful political bully group **will** control the government worldview on religion, culture, and politics. It is **NOT** a conservative ideal:<

1)to put this much power in a government institution,

2) for conservatives to be bullies.

Please remember that any government powerful enough to **FORCE** ( under police threat) conservatism on other people's children is powerful enough to force atheistic Marxism on ours.

Government schools have from the very beginning have been socialistic. Their goal has **always** been indoctrination of children to make them compliant servants of the state. They also have their roots in vicious anti-Catholicism. Government schools from the beginning were essentially **Protestant***religious schools. If you do not believe this then please check out government text books from the 19th and early 20th century.

Protestant Christian bullies thought that they would always have full control of the government schools. Silly them! Remember: Any government powerful enough to force Protestantism in the government schools is powerful enough to force Marxist atheism on conservatives.

We **must** shut down the government schools so that government NEVER AGAIN has so much power over the minds of children! ( Regardless of who is running them.)

We just let the left take control of the schools and didn’t even put up a fight. And there are still some wonderful, God-fearing, Christian teachers. They just don’t have much support.

The left has ALWAYS been in control of the government schools! From the very beginning government schools were a socialist ideal. Socialists conceived of the idea of government schooling. Socialists lobbied for them. Government schools attract liberal/Marxists like moths to a light. It's been like a boa constrictor. The leftist/Marxists in the government school have just gradually ratcheting down. The government school socialists preyed upon and manipulated the anti-Catholic fear of Americans to get their socialist schools started.

We know the problem. What is the solution?Not everyone can home-school or afford private schools.

No, many conservatives do NOT know the problem. They merely see the symptoms. They do NOT understand that government schools must be shut down because they are **fundamentally*** a socialist idea. The real **problem** with government schools is that they can NOT be fixed because they ARE working exactly as intended. They are socialistic.

Our Christian churches ( Catholic and Protestant) could if they wanted educate **all** the children in their congregations. They won't though. There are too many government teachers, school employees, their families, the vendors to the schools, and people who indirectly benefit ( for instance my dentist and his 5 employees depend on government dental insurance for their livelihoods.)

Few ministers will bite the government school hand that puts money in the collection plate.

Solution:

Conservatives must set up conservative educational foundations. These conservative educational foundations would award grants to conservative teachers who would set up tuition-free mini-schools, one room school houses, and homeschool cooperatives. The foundations would certify the teacher, approve the curriculum, and test the students.

No, brick and mortar schools are not the answer because they are too expensive to build and run and frought with too many zoning and other regulations.

Conservatives **MUST** break the government school monopoly on non-academic activities ( team sports, jazz team dancers, cheerleading, theater, art, drill team, wrestling..etc.) Conservative educational foundations could set up private alternative programs or lobby to have the moved to the county parks and recreation departments. This is important to do because these activities generate "rah rah" support for the government schools in the voting booth and are the reason many children attend government schools.

On the college and university level we can turn these schools around if our conservative youth are prepared to defend their conservative principles and their faith. Also, there is strength in numbers. We more conservative kids in college classrooms their Marxist professors will be more likely to keep their Marxist tendencies under control.

NO conservative should ever give one dime to a Marxist college or university. And...They should join with other conservative alumni and let the boards of these colleges know exactly why no money will be coming their way.

If any money is given to a Marxist college or university it should be pooled with other conservatives. The conservative education foundation could funnel this money and make sure that GREAT BIG THICK strings are attached to that money that will force change upon these colleges and universities.

( Sorry, Not proof read.)

36 posted on 01/02/2009 4:28:57 PM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: nobama08

“Maybe Christians need to run for local school boards and state level education jobs. We just let the left take control of the schools and didn’t even put up a fight. And there are still some wonderful, God-fearing, Christian teachers. They just don’t have much support.”

And that my friend is exactly the case. WE are responsible for the state of the schools. WE caused this problem, WE should take the responsibility to fix it!

You don’t hear that in the derogatory remarks made by Bruce Shortt and this Moore fellow, do we?

I won’t read any further, it will only probably serve to raise my blood pressure.


47 posted on 01/02/2009 5:33:35 PM PST by swmobuffalo ("We didn't seek the approval of Code Pink and MoveOn.org before deciding what to do")
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