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The major problem that I have with this movie, and I have not seen it yet nor do I intened to, is the premise that these were just good Germans who opposed Hitler and his policies. They were just trying stamp out his evil ways.

B*ll Sh*t!!!

These officers were in deep enough to be part of the inner circle. close enough to plant a bomb at a major strategic meeting with Hitler. They were okay with everything until the wheels starting coming off the wagon. They were scrambling so that they could cut a better deal. This is just another attempt to re-write history,

Beck had been conspiring against the Nazis since 1938.

Some of the conspirators were indeed good Germans and good men.

I read last week (a review of something that was on the History channel, I think) that there were lots of plots against Hitler.

I was surprised by that. I knew since about 1958 that von Stauffenberg had been involved in a unsuccessful attempt on Hitler’s life. I wrote a short report on it for a history class. But, I never heard before that there were over 100 plots to kill Hitler. Many of them were never actually attempted.

Interesting that the Roosevelt Administration deliberately squelched all news about it so that the German people would have no one to be proud of. Churchill disagreed with that decision.

One of the causes for the Germans being so ready to accept Hitler was the stupid WWI punishment of the Germans to the point that they were starving. Intelligent people ought to know better to totally humiliate a group of people.

On the other hand, post-WWII was a truly magnificent endeavor on the part of the western allies. Some German friends of mine told me (back in 1980) that their family would have starved after WWII if the Americans had not been so generous to them. They were so gratefule for everything the USA did and was doing to protect them from the Soviet Union. These were Rheinlanders, not the socialists in the north and east of the country.

At least the West Germans got it right. They did actually teach their children about Hitler and his evil ways, and also worked hard to build up a democracy and a good economy. Now the socialists are destroying it.

These officers were in deep enough to be part of the inner circle. close enough to plant a bomb at a major strategic meeting with Hitler. They were okay with everything until the wheels starting coming off the wagon. They were scrambling so that they could cut a better deal. This is just another attempt to re-write history,

Overly simplistic view of what is a complex issue. Parts of the Wehrmacht (the former Imperial Reichswehr) had always been critical of Hitler. Hammerstein Equord, former commander-in-chief of the Reichswehr (and a military genius) famously called the nazis filthy pigs and for Hitler to be shot ("Private Hitler has gone mad", quote 1923).

As to inner circle: Is a US Army General soon automatically a member of the inner circles of the Democratic party, just because he is supposed to carry out orders from his commander-in-chief Obama?

The Churchill quote about infighting amongst the German regime was a propaganda story meant to keep unity and morale intact and Stalin pacified. Unfortunately this myth survived and was canonized by Shirer et al, despite being untrue.

Don't get me wrong: large parts of the Wehrmacht were Nazi and "ok with everything". But that doesn't make the exceptions less of a fact.