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U.S. Must Be Cut Loose
12-28-08 | gpk9

Posted on 12/28/2008 10:00:07 PM PST by gpk9

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1 posted on 12/28/2008 10:00:08 PM PST by gpk9
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Source???


2 posted on 12/28/2008 10:06:32 PM PST by baltoga
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Can be traced back to Congress.

Yet nobody listens to me.

“I told you so” won’t cut it when it hits the fan.


3 posted on 12/28/2008 10:07:57 PM PST by wastedyears (In Canada, Santa says "Ho Ho, eh?")
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$14 Tn in credit card debt?

What currency? CC debt has been going down recently. I don’t think it has ever been above $2 Tn, which is 15% of GDP.


4 posted on 12/28/2008 10:10:11 PM PST by bluedressman
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We are having problems, to say the least, but I think you overstate their severity in near hysterical terms.


5 posted on 12/28/2008 10:10:37 PM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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All we have to do is print the money to pay off the debt. Our government is bailing out the banks and laying the cost on the taxpayer why wont they print money for the people they are enslaving with the bailouts???

Makes sense to me.

6 posted on 12/28/2008 10:12:17 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon (America land soon to be of the enslaved...)
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Maybe I won't have to choose between 20 different types of ketchup in the future.

We will find other jobs to do.. We will get along just fine without so much stuff.. We will survive..

Good always comes out of what seems to be bad.
7 posted on 12/28/2008 10:13:04 PM PST by divine_moment_of_facts
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You forgot to mention that FR has turned into an unmoderated hate-fest among members.


8 posted on 12/28/2008 10:14:41 PM PST by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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relax. 7% of the entire world's 2007 GDP is sitting in money-market mutual funds. when the risk-reward picture makes sense, that capital will come back to work.

Money Funds a/o 12/23/08: $3,808 bn.
World GDP, 2007:$54,347.038 bn

9 posted on 12/28/2008 10:16:36 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (revolution is in the air.)
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For a nation of people to have things, they must produce things. Free nations must practice free trade in order to continue their freedoms. Manufacturing is real work. If you don’t don’t real work, eventually, you don’t eat.


10 posted on 12/28/2008 10:25:22 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: wastedyears
"Can be traced back to Congress.

Yet nobody listens to me.

“I told you so” won’t cut it when it hits the fan.
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The lawyers in Congress have done exactly what their favored business constituents have paid them to do. When "it hits the fan," everyone will know good and well who brought the crash. My advice to those special citizen-of-the-world, free traitor interests is for them to scram before it happens.


11 posted on 12/28/2008 10:29:04 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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I meant to write, free nations must practice fair trade in order to continue their freedoms. The practice of borrowing money from communist nations to purchase goods from those nations is a ticket to economic collapse.


12 posted on 12/28/2008 10:33:07 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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“You forgot to mention that FR has turned into an unmoderated hate-fest among members.”

Bingo.


13 posted on 12/28/2008 10:36:17 PM PST by flaglady47 (Four years of captivity, no relief in sight)
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TED spread?


14 posted on 12/28/2008 10:40:17 PM PST by smokingfrog (I'll go green when they plant me in the ground.)
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You sound like you read too much KD over at Ticker Forum.

Either it’s hitting the fan, or it isn’t. I’ve worried until I can’t worry anymore. My business went down the tubes this year, and I was fortunate to take a big income hit for a job with a former customer. Oh well, it’s enough to pay the monthly expenses, which aren’t much by most people’s standards, apparently. A mortgage under $1K a month, house over half paid off, no other debt.

There are more important things, though. My dad passed away in April, and the holidays will never be the same.

I have no idea what the future holds, and have never been so pessimistic because it doesn’t sound good at all, but if you have your loved ones to gather close to you, it’ll be alright in the end.


15 posted on 12/28/2008 10:49:52 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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The author identifies all of the key problems with the US economy, then through a leap of logic, claims the dollar will no longer be the world’s reserve currency. The fallacy in his logic is, he fails to identify what will replace the US dollar as the world’s reserve currency. The Ruble? The Peso? Surely not the Euro.

I don’t doubt the dollar will be debased. Chopper and Bazooka are doing everything they can to devaluate the dollar and stimulate inflation. But to jump from that to dropping the dollar as the world’s reserve currency is a massive leap of faith. I’m not buying it.

The word “hyperinflation” is tossed about casually by some people.


16 posted on 12/28/2008 10:53:30 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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BRAVO! WELL STATED!!!


17 posted on 12/28/2008 11:14:47 PM PST by prismsinc (AIP works for ME!!!!)
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To: baltoga
Source???


18 posted on 12/28/2008 11:26:46 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (All hail the Obamasiah! Kneel before Obamohammad!)
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To: familyop
The practice of borrowing money from communist nations to purchase goods from those nations is a ticket to economic collapse.

Trading green pieces of paper for real stuff seems like a good idea to me -- especially if they lend us the green pieces of paper.

19 posted on 12/28/2008 11:30:34 PM PST by AZLiberty (I hope Obama changes.)
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That's a load of crap derived from faulty "facts".

Not to say we don't have a lot of problems, because we do, but $14 trillion in credit card debt? That's total garbage.

There's currently about $2.5 trillion in outstanding consumer credit, of which just under $1 trillion is revolving debt (credit cards). The remaining $1.5 trillion is car loans, education loans, and other non-revolving loans. This amount is partly secured, in the case of car loans and loans given for the purchase of other products.

Now, there is about $14.5 trillion in mortgage debt out there, which is secured to an extent against the value of the real assets backing the paper. Without more accurate figures about the current values of the property backing that debt, it is impossible to say how much of that is actually secured.

IOW, credit card debt is about, what? 7 or 8% of GDP?

20 posted on 12/28/2008 11:31:05 PM PST by DaisyCutter
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