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To: Red Steel; All

I’ve read numerous postings on this thread where persons suspect a forged BC will be produced. Personally, I don’t think that likely unless the State of Hawaii participates in a conspiracy.

What I believe will happen is that Hawaii will refuse to release the information. I’m not sure one state court can force another state to release information from state held records. I think it would take a federal court to order this.....which they ALL seem unwilling to do. Vicious circle ain’t it?

IF the originals of his BC WERE to be released and it showed that his status of “natural born” was in question. Then in order to get any action out of congress or federal courts...a large scale uprising (NO, I don’t mean armed revolt which isn’t required) of the populace would be required. Enough unrest and discord that would cause the government to be locked up. It would also help if the majority of serving military would refuse to follow Mr. Obama’s orders because they are “defending the constitution”...although only commissioned officers could do that because their oath does not mention following orders of the POTUS like an enlisted oath does.


57 posted on 12/20/2008 12:04:52 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas

Sounds like a plan to me!


59 posted on 12/20/2008 12:58:13 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: Sola Veritas
I’m not sure one state court can force another state to release information from state held records

Hawaii law only requires an order from a court of competent jurisdiction, not necessarily a Hawaiian or Federal court.

This probably bears on the issue:

Article. IV. Constitution for the United States


Section. 1. Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.

Stands to reason that a court in one state, if they are to give full faith and credit to records of another state, must be able to order such records or copies thereof produced as a way of "proving" them.

69 posted on 12/20/2008 8:36:03 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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