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1 posted on 12/17/2008 7:14:46 PM PST by mainestategop
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You mean we can't spend our way to prosperity?
2 posted on 12/17/2008 7:23:38 PM PST by smokingfrog (I'll go green when they plant me in the ground.)
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If Mr Jefferson could see the mess we have now,I think that he would want all members of Congress tat and feathered.And that would just be a start....


3 posted on 12/17/2008 7:24:15 PM PST by Farmer Dean (168 grains of instant conflict resolution)
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4 posted on 12/17/2008 7:24:47 PM PST by mainestategop (MAINE: The way communism should be)
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The existence of a nation having no credit is always precarious." --Thomas Jefferson to James Madison,

How is it that our forefathers were so much smarter than the current leaders?

5 posted on 12/17/2008 7:25:54 PM PST by oldbrowser (bipartisanship means capitulation)
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“…I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. “
Thomas Jefferson (1743 - 1826),
Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802)

Federal Reserve

Some people say that they are a private corporation … however… The "Federal Reserve" is not a government institution but a private central bank owned by a handful of major banks and bond dealers. As such, it is a cartel owned, controlled, and essentially for-profit driven, not by the people of the United States but, instead, by the banking industry's ruling elite. This oligarchic setup generates the most costly, debt-based, money system and greatest conflicts of interest in the history of the world. It is a system clearly at odds with the intent of the founders of the United States of America.

But The Federal Reserve says that they are not private…they state it on their website…

The Federal Reserve System is not "owned" by anyone and is not a private, profit-making institution. Instead, it is an independent entity within the government, having both public purposes and private aspects.

Lewis v. United States, 680 F.2d 1239 (1982)
John L. Lewis, Plaintiff/Appellant,
v.
United States of America, Defendant/Appellee.
No. 80-5905
United States Court of Appeals, Ninth Circuit.
Submitted March 2, 1982.
Decided April 19, 1982.
As Amended June 24, 1982.

Plaintiff, who was injured by vehicle owned and operated by a federal reserve bank, brought action alleging jurisdiction under the Federal Tort Claims Act. The United States District Court for the Central District of California, David W. Williams, J., dismissed holding that federal reserve bank was not a federal agency within meaning of Act and that the court therefore lacked subject-matter jurisdiction. Appeal was taken. The Court of Appeals, Poole, Circuit Judge, held that federal reserve banks are not federal instrumentalities for purposes of the Act, but are independent, privately owned and locally controlled corporations.
7 posted on 12/17/2008 7:37:03 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (Cultural conditions, not gun laws, are the most important factors in a nation's crime rate.)
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Hate to burst any bubbles, but Jefferson spent most of his adult life in serious debt because he lived WAY beyond his means. Believe he died in debt, and one of the reasons he didn’t free any of his slaves was that they had to be sold to cover part of the nut.


9 posted on 12/17/2008 8:30:41 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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